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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    My first suggestion would be for civilians to stop fanning the flames and putting themselves at risk. As I said before it isn't unprecedented for the US gov/ authorities to step in when they think that hate speech could endanger lives, if I'm not mistaken didn't your government intervene in the case of that Florida pastor?
    They didn't actually. There was official commentary and a request that he refrain but the right to freedom of speech and expression is much closer to an absolute in the United States than it is elsewhere. There is no exception for 'hate speech' per se, there is only an exception for the imminent and deliberate incitement of violence, an exception that the courts have held to very tight and very specific circumstances. The mere probability that violence will occur is not nearly enough.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It takes instances like these to remind us of where the left stands (for itself only). They spend the interim between said events convincing everyone that they dont actually mean what they do.
    Short memories are convenient.

    That's why we see so much pretzel logic, what was taboo one day, is now SOP, depending on the circumstances.

    To them "mob violence" is a Republican nomination meeting, while death threats against Christians is because "we were provoked"...or whatever excuse is running that day.

    I notice to that there isn't much push back nor reply to you comments about Islam being so friendly and passive as "Owe" has so many times.
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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas [W:439]

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    Garland is a burb of Dallas, where I live. Actually, although it's a bad idea to go gunning after a group of pickup truck bubbas in Texas without a lot of fire power, the two guys DID have a lot of fire power. They were in full body armor, had assault weapons, and there were items in their car that may have been explosives. And who killed them were not the bubbas. There was one off duty cop with a regular duty gun, and a security guard, both sitting in a car outside. The terrorists drove up and opened fire on the police car. The off duty cop got out, aimed, and killed both of 'em tout suite. The security guard was shot in the leg. He's been released from the hospital and is fine.

    Two very stupid terrorists. Dead as a doornail, now. Rightly so. All because they don't recognize free speech. Yeah, the group's event was goading the muslims and done intentionally to anger them. But they have a right to do that.
    My family lives in Garland, and I was out visiting them last night when this occurred. That officer acted heroically. And what a shot! Got both of them in the head, as they were wearing body armor. They shot one security guard in the ankle.

    If you know your bible, this is written "the serpent will strike your heel, and you will crush it's skull"

    Almost prophetic

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Well...lets see. People are saying that it is an expected 'consequence'....that one can expect such a response to an act of free speech from extremists-that sort of sounds like blaming the people that hosted and attened the free speech event, doesnt it? Does that mean we can soon expect other responses as a natural 'consequence' from extremists in the US?
    It's actually equal parts blaming the victim and having a very low expectation of Muslims. "Well duh, you insult Mohammed and Muslims shoot you!"
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    It's actually equal parts blaming the victim and having a very low expectation of Muslims. "Well duh, you insult Mohammed and Muslims shoot you!"
    I just am really perplexed. Those same people in this thread saying "watch your free expression and you wont be targeted" are the types that say "as if Muslims are a threat......."

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Well in this country we have freedom of speech, and shooting someone for drawing a picture is and should be treated as a crime regardless of religious affiliation. The "offended" in this case do not have the right to murder over it.
    It's amazing that you have to explain that to some people...
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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    I almost think the mouse trap element of this is to be lauded, not condemned.

    Good riddance to bad jihadist.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Yes, it does. You can't have a war against a concept, and you don't defeat terror by using greater terror.
    Yes, terror is a tactic. Not a cause or a war. Terrorism can't be defeated through the use of violence, since it's a tactic of extremists willing to die for a cause. The only way to combat it is to get to young people and win their hearts & minds, and to help them have something to live for.

    But terrorism works, which is why it's used. Ask the IRA.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I don't think they should be murdered but if they do end up getting hurt doing something stupid/provocative I will not shed a tear. Stupid is as stupid does.



    End of the day we have massive issues with homegrown extremists right now and events like these don't really help.
    Do I smell fear? Capitulate and the problem grows exponentially.
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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Sounds like it was a Pamela Geller event


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