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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    It is problematic and until we can get on top of this home grown Islamic extremism events like these will continue to be dangerous to those participating and those forced to protect the participants.
    How do you propose to get on top of this home grown Ismlamic extremisim...and in the meantime do you suggest people just hide in their baseme.......

    Hey....WAIT a second....

    I thought Islamic terrorism in the US wasnt something people should worry about? I thought every time its been brought up its been tea party conservative whack job types overreacting?

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-scot View Post
    It's not a question of blame one party and not the other, or even apportioning blame on a % basis. If something goes wrong between people, you have to look at the behaviour of both sides to learn lessons. Do you think that there are any lessons which this defence group can learn from this incident, if they are willing to examine their motives and actions?
    My family lives in Garland Texas. I was there last night when the shootings occurred.

    I was not at the cartoon event, because personally I think it's childish and pointless, and I have no reason to spend my Sunday night at what essentially amounts to a hate rally.

    That said, this group had every right in the world to hold their event, and like any peaceful assembly, they have the right of expectation that they won't be physically harmed.

    While I don't agree with the cartoonists, I put the fault completely on the shoulders of the Muslim extremists who overreacted big time to a harmless rally.

    I value my freedom of speech and I do not want to see us as a society start to erode those freedoms to capitulate to the whims of a few nut bags with assault rifles.

    I think the Garland policeman who shot the suspects is a hero and a badass and a hell of a shot. I'm thankful we have officers like that who are there to defend our freedoms, even if in this case, it's the freedom of people to do something idiotic.

    At the end of the day, neither of the two suspects were from Texas, nor was the event organizer nor the keynote speaker. This whole thing was an unwelcomed intrusion in some respects, but at least it was a Texan, the officer, who put an end to it.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Do you have any idea just how many generations it took for some immigrants to be assimilated into what you know as "American culture"?
    Well, when the immigrants respected, and appreciated this country, and what it offers, not long, usually within a generation.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Do you have any idea just how many generations it took for some immigrants to be assimilated into what you know as "American culture"?
    2, sometimes 3 generations.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Nobody "stepped in" and stopped the Florida pastor from burning copies of the Quran, he had a change of heart and decided not to proceed with it on his own.
    You might wish to do a bit of reading before posting things that aren't true.

    Koran-burning preacher

    He ended up not burning any copies of the Koran in 2010, but the following year, he was at it again, holding a mock trial in which he accused Islam of evil and appointing himself as judge. The proceedings were held at Dove Outreach, in worship space that doubled as a warehouse for an e-Bay furniture business Jones ran on the side. This time a Koran was burned, sparking rioting in Afghanistan that reportedly left 20 dead, including several U.N. workers. Soon after that, an Iranian cleric called for Jones’s execution, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League added him to their watch lists of hate groups, and Jones bought a gun for self-protection and then another.

    What he didn’t do: shrink from sight. In 2013, sheriff’s deputies in Polk County, Fla., pulled him over in a truck towing a smoker-style barbecue grill that was filled with hundreds of kerosene-soaked copies of the Koran. He was charged with the unlawful conveyance of fuel, but this time, instead of outrage and pandemonium, the reaction was more of a shrug.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, when the immigrants respected, and appreciated this country, and what it offers, not long, usually within a generation.
    See post #474
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    You might wish to do a bit of reading before posting things that aren't true.
    Zingo! You got me! Oh snap! Lol sorry bud, I don't keep up on the life and times of every nutcase?in America. All I remembered was back in 2010 when it was all over the news, and then he had a change of heart and didn't burn them.

    Either case, the point was that the govt never stepped in and stopped him (USA doesn't operate that way, and that's what I was trying to convey.).

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    See post #474
    Not sure what your point is regarding that

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    See post #474
    Nope, Early immigrants that came to this country held on to their traditions, that is true, but that is NOT refusal to assimilate to this country's culture, and customs in living day to day...many legal immigrants try hard, and teach their children to assimilate immediately upon being absorbed into this country's population...It is IMHO, only those that interlope into this country without appreciating what this country offers them that refuse to do so.

    And the problem is that those that don't have more than a few self centered, easily led cretins that were born here and don't appreciate what they have either, so there is support for using up, and destroying what is America, which makes it doubly sad.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Not sure what your point is regarding that
    I'm agreeing with your statement in #474 which contradicts j-mac's earlier post and subsequent one also.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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