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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    The issue here is simple. This event was designed to get a reaction from the "enemy", either in the US (preferably I bet) or abroad some where. It was the whole goal of the organizers to provoke and they are hiding behind this so called free speech.... free speech they want to deny Muslims.. oddly enough.

    Now they got the reaction exactly as they had hoped, so they can now use this attack in their hate filled ignorant jihad/crusade against Islam and in turn the radicals in Islam will use this event and attack to bolster their radical ideas within Islam by claiming "look the Christians are attacking us" bull****. This is never ending crap and it has to stop.

    Religious wars are dangerous as hell.. ask the French about their religious wars that cost them up to 25% of their population (some say up to 40%) because of Christians fighting it out over who loves Jesus more. Or the English religious wars that burnt Christians at the stake because they believed in a different idea of Christianity.. Or Christian slaughter of Jerusalem in 1099. The list of wars and atrocities done in the name of religion go on and on, and this event was just another skirmish in a new war between radical Christians and Muslims... and it has to freaking stop.
    Is being homosexual meant to get a reaction from Islamic extremist ? Homosexuals in Iran or Saudi Arabia, are they simply trying to get a reaction ?

    Because whether you depict Muhammad as a Cartoon character or you embrace your homosexuality the consequences are the same.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I think you're missing the point, or I am... seem he was saying that our extreme conservatives (whose values are actually pretty damned close to the extreme Islamists) are into killing each other. We take armies and drones to kill them, they endeavor to kill ours through more individual means, but they are all out to kill each, the extreme religious right wing Christians, and the extreme religious right wing Muslims.
    maybe I figured he was talking about this story

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Take a look at any thread about atheism, and tell me there isn't provocation there?

    We can and we should poke holes in "sacred" bull****, if the "sacred" can't handle it then let them suffer.

    This is the best example of American-style justice I have seen in this "un-holy war on terror", the first real backbone that isn't politically cleansed for "domestic consumption", the kind of thing that should have happened in Benghazi.

    Two men show up, pull out guns and get taken out by a traffic cop.

    If the US needed a new way to say "Don't Tread On Me", they have it in spades. They might think about this kind of **** in Paris, but not in ****ing Texas, now likely the safest place in the union.

    The only good terrorists is a dead terrorist.
    Oh we already know the left is merely using that argument (provocation) to hide behind here because it suits them. Elsewhere, where it also suits them-they do the precise opposite.

    Too bad a CCW holder didn't stop them-that would have really put the left in a tight spot.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Hi Higgins,

    The problem with that line of thought is that once you capitulate to the extremists, then they've succeeded in their goal and won.

    They bring guns to such events in order to cow you in to not holding them, do you really want to send the message that such violent tactics work and that we're easily pushed around?

    Personally, I'm glad I live in Texas where this kind of thing wasn't tolerated. The two perps were shot dead on the spot, and no other deaths took place. Let that be a lesson to Muslim extremists the other way. This is our country, and freedom of speech isn't something we're gonna give up without a fight. You bring a gun to Texas, you better be aware that everyone else is gonna have one too and are not afraid to draw...

    I just think it's a shame people have to stoop that low to get their opinion heard, I also think its a shame for the Police officers and all other local security forces that are put in danger due to events like these.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Many Europeans are 'compromising' on a lot of issues that would have been unacceptable just a few years ago. In fact the leader of a major political party wants to make "Islamophobia" illegal, and many of the sheep have already fallen into line.. Labour Party's Ed Miliband says he would make 'Islamophobia' illegal if he becomes UK PM - The Rebel
    I generally have a lot of respect for Europeans, in fact I'm an immigrant from Europe myself. However, the three Europeans I responded to in this thread all said basically the same thing, and that is that the victims were "asking for it" in other words.

    Our European friends are wrong on this issue.

    You can't back down and capitulate to this kind of threat. You have to hold strong to your values, in this case Freedom of Speech, or else the crazy guy with the gun accomplishes his goal.

    Deadly violence is not a rational response to something as harmless as a cartoon. Citizens and residents of the United States should be held to a standard where they are expected to act rationally. If you're admitting that you can't hold the Muslim population to that standard, then they have no business being let in to this country to begin with.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Liberal bull****.

    No man shall live in threat of his life for declaring that which be believes. The only exceptions are the inevitable shouting fire in a theatre.

    FFS you people love to see Jesus depicted as a clown, gay, laughing on the cross, and Christians don't blow **** up, and if they did, you would have them hunted and killed. FFS, a girl in Indiana speculates about a pizza catered gay wedding and draws death threats, and not one liberal, from the President to whatever worm is running for the job had not one comment. They tacitly approved those death threats.

    Now, here you are tacitly approving and excusing mob violence to silence free speech.

    What we all love about "progressive" ethics is that they are as flexible as a snake
    It takes instances like these to remind us of where the left stands (for itself only). They spend the interim between said events convincing everyone that they dont actually mean what they do.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    However, some people have at least implied that a violent reaction should have been almost expected.
    well if you keep getting violent reactions from doing something then yes it should be but that doesn't make it right

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yep, and being Gay and a non-believer is a provocation to these people too.

    People need to stop being Gay and Christian because if Islamist kill them then its kind of their fault.
    Sounds like the Hillary Clinton "Bimbo" attack.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    The issue here is simple. This event was designed to get a reaction from the "enemy", either in the US (preferably I bet) or abroad some where. It was the whole goal of the organizers to provoke and they are hiding behind this so called free speech.... free speech they want to deny Muslims.. oddly enough.

    Now they got the reaction exactly as they had hoped, so they can now use this attack in their hate filled ignorant jihad/crusade against Islam and in turn the radicals in Islam will use this event and attack to bolster their radical ideas within Islam by claiming "look the Christians are attacking us" bull****. This is never ending crap and it has to stop.

    Religious wars are dangerous as hell.. ask the French about their religious wars that cost them up to 25% of their population (some say up to 40%) because of Christians fighting it out over who loves Jesus more. Or the English religious wars that burnt Christians at the stake because they believed in a different idea of Christianity.. Or Christian slaughter of Jerusalem in 1099. The list of wars and atrocities done in the name of religion go on and on, and this event was just another skirmish in a new war between radical Christians and Muslims... and it has to freaking stop.
    It was about free speech. It was a way to protest the people who censored themselves in France in order to appease the extremely religious Muslims . Which is not a bad thing and it was handled well with no casualties besides the perpetrators . It was a drawing contest and drawing of anything should not in anyway be censored.

    I'm very well aware of the problems with religion , but offending so ones religion is in no way a reason to censors someone . Anyone is allowed to be critical.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    maybe I figured he was talking about this story
    Nope he's just talking about the morons on this site.
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