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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    So you see no difference between somebody voicing an opinion of view you find distatesteful and offensive and somebody trying to kill someone? I do see a big difference.
    Considering that this so called voicing of an opinion was designed to create a reaction somewhere... then this is no different than the actual act committed. It is like shouting fire in a crowded theatre and people getting trampled to death.. you are still responsible for the trampling even though you have your "free speech" to shout fire.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-scot View Post
    I don't usually stoop to that level but the poster had not replied to me before. He was out to insult me and make me and my opinions look stupid. I'll happily engage in civilised debate with him if he makes the effort to deal with my points in a civilised way himself.
    When you capitulate, or become cowed as a society because you fear irrational Muslims overreacting to something as harmless as a cartoon with deadly violence...you've lost not only your balls but your soul as well.

    You can't let a bunch of immigrants come in and push you around. This is Texas, we have freedom of speech and hold it very dear here. Outsiders are welcome, but if you're so offended by someone else's speech that you think violent outrage is the correct response, you need to get your ass out of my state and back to whatever sand dune you came from.

    We're not moving one inch, or giving up one iota of our freedom for these pretenders.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Considering that this so called voicing of an opinion was designed to create a reaction somewhere... then this is no different than the actual act committed. It is like shouting fire in a crowded theatre and people getting trampled to death.. you are still responsible for the trampling even though you have your "free speech" to shout fire.
    Deadly force is a vast, vast OVERREACTION to something as silly as a cartoon.

    Other people should be expected to act rationally.

    I'm not buying this European line that somehow the victims were asking for it. You guys are wrong on this one.

    Is the girl who wears a short skirt who gets raped at fault for her own rape? That's the same logic you're using

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    The issue here is simple. This event was designed to get a reaction from the "enemy", either in the US (preferably I bet) or abroad some where.
    Who used the word 'enemy', apart from you?
    It was the whole goal of the organizers to provoke and they are hiding behind this so called free speech.... free speech they want to deny Muslims.. oddly enough.
    It is not 'so-called' free speech, it is free speech. And what free speech is being denied to Muslims?

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Deadly force is a vast, vast OVERREACTION to something as silly as a cartoon. Other people should be expected to act rationally. I'm not buying this European line that somehow the victims were asking for it. You guys are wrong on this one.Is the girl who wears a short skirt who gets raped at fault for her own rape? That's the same logic you're using
    Many Europeans are 'compromising' on a lot of issues that would have been unacceptable just a few years ago. In fact the leader of a major political party wants to make "Islamophobia" illegal, and many of the sheep have already fallen into line.. Labour Party's Ed Miliband says he would make 'Islamophobia' illegal if he becomes UK PM - The Rebel

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Considering that this so called voicing of an opinion was designed to create a reaction somewhere... then this is no different than the actual act committed. It is like shouting fire in a crowded theatre and people getting trampled to death.. you are still responsible for the trampling even though you have your "free speech" to shout fire.
    No, that is not true at all. Shouting "fire" in a movie theater is a hazard to the public because it creates panic. Drawing a picture of a mythical character is not a public hazard. It's just offensive to ONE religious cult.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Considering that this so called voicing of an opinion was designed to create a reaction somewhere... then this is no different than the actual act committed. It is like shouting fire in a crowded theatre and people getting trampled to death.. you are still responsible for the trampling even though you have your "free speech" to shout fire.
    It seems there was fire in the theater and the Garland police quickly put it out.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    No, that is not true at all. Shouting "fire" in a movie theater is a hazard to the public because it creates panic. Drawing a picture of a mythical character is not a public hazard. It's just offensive to ONE religious cult.
    How brainwashed and backward would anyone have to be to want to kill innocent people over a cartoon? They need an Intervention, and luckily the Garland police supplied one.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How brainwashed and backward would anyone have to be to want to kill innocent people over a cartoon? They need an Intervention, and luckily the Garland police supplied one.
    I think many more are in need of the same intervention.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Well in this country we have freedom of speech, and shooting someone for drawing a picture is and should be treated as a crime regardless of religious affiliation. The "offended" in this case do not have the right to murder over it.
    No they don't and if a crime is committed they would be punished either by the law or in this case killed, however this doesn't stop them doing trying. Just not sure why I should feel sorry for someone who has put themselves in that dangerous situation and potentially endangered others?
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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