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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    Not quite. they only proved that they were wrong.
    Dead wrong

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    You seem to make fun or question their rights. Rights you should be willing to fight for, not mock.
    Link to the post, or stop wasting my time.

    So mocking or criticizing someone is to deny their rights. That's an ... interesting take.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Link to the post, or stop wasting my time.

    So mocking or criticizing someone is to deny their rights. That's an ... interesting take.
    Mocking or minimalizing or demonizing is the first step to taking. Just like with guns.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Mocking or minimalizing or demonizing is the first step to taking. Just like with guns.


    That's an absurdly stupid point of view.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ah yes, pointing out that Pam Geller is an unrepentant bigot makes me the one who's truly hateful!

    Since I haven't protested the building of a house of worship, headed up any hate groups, put anti-Muslim ads on NYC subway cars, or anything similar, I'd reckon I'm better in that regard than Pamela Geller, thanks.

    Yeah, everyone always "reckons" that...

    Here is Geller's subway ad:

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    Geller is stating that Islam has a serious problem with terrorism -- something you have said here yourself -- do you think she is wrong to link terrorism to passages in the Quran that these Islamic terrorists use to justify their terrorism?
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post


    That's an absurdly stupid point of view.
    Really? Ask the European Jew of the 30s and 40s.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Yeah, everyone always "reckons" that...

    Here is Geller's subway ad:

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    Geller is stating that Islam has a serious problem with terrorism -- something you have said here yourself -- do you think she is wrong to link terrorism to passages in the Quran that these Islamic terrorists use to justify their terrorism?
    These ones were too.

    MTA Forced to Print Anti-Islamic Ads on Buses, Subways | Observer

    "Today's moderate is tomorrow's headline"? Slightly more objectionable.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    These ones were too.

    MTA Forced to Print Anti-Islamic Ads on Buses, Subways | Observer

    "Today's moderate is tomorrow's headline"? Slightly more objectionable.
    Out of curiosity, which of these ads do you think are not true?

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Really? Ask the European Jew of the 30s and 40s.
    So anyone who is mocked has one foot on the train to Auschwitz. Well, didn't know of you'd double down on the nonsense, but you didn't disappoint.

    Mocking or criticizing actions or rhetoric one finds offensive, objectionable or just plain stupid is just as much of an exercise in free speech as those actions or rhetoric. Using the Holocaust as a prop to attack those who exercise their own rights is piss-poor form.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Yeah, everyone always "reckons" that...

    Here is Geller's subway ad:

    r-ANTIISLAM-AD-large570.jpg

    Geller is stating that Islam has a serious problem with terrorism -- something you have said here yourself -- do you think she is wrong to link terrorism to passages in the Quran that these Islamic terrorists use to justify their terrorism?
    The problem with Geller - apart from her lack of intellectual honesty and lack of taste in commercials - is that she is simply trying to turn the war against jihadi terrorism into a war against all muslims and against Islam as a religion. It is her right and prerogative to do that and to defend that view. But it is a distraction from the real fight (which should be fought in a much more sustained and remorseless way).

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