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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    So... how did that work out for you in Texas, in an armed society?


    Not so good eh? Yeah I sort of figured...
    It did not work well at all. But I am not laughing at that fact (well maybe a chuckle or two). Smugness is tempting (and I have some over the incidnet as well), but look at the wisdom of Matthew 17:27:

    But so that we may not cause offense, go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours."

    Giving needless offense and causing a needless confrontation is foolish (secularists, which nearly all of the contestants probably were, should still heed Mt. 17:27). As Nota Bene pointed out, needless offense also directly entices others to sin, which is sinful itself.

    In the end, it does not matter how skilled one is at arms*, or whether or not one "won" an avoidable confrontation on a particular occasion.

    * Speaking of skill with arms, the firefight was over in 15 seconds with both assault weapon type shooters KIA. No wild shooting and with one exception, no other people even injured. That demonstrates alot of skill. The security guards that I saw in photos looked far more "Blackwater" than ordinary guards or moonlighting PD. My guess is that the orgainizers knew to bring some "ringers".
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The guys drawing cartoons in Dallas were "protecting my rights"? Oh, please.
    Oddly enough, the dead Muslims proved Geller right

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The guys drawing cartoons in Dallas were "protecting my rights"? Oh, please.
    As an American, you should be all for protecting theirs.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    As an American, you should be all for protecting theirs.
    Please link to the post where I claimed they don't have the right to draw cartoons of Muhammad, or that violent response against them was somehow justified. I'll wait.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Oddly enough, the dead Muslims proved Geller right
    Not quite. they only proved that they were wrong.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Or from those who value Mattthew 17:27.

    But so that we may not cause offense, go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours

    The admonition of Jesus against giving needless offense (and thereby engaging in avoidable confrontations) is still very valid. It clearly applies in this situation. The probably mostly secular cartoon contestants would do will to heed it.

    That aside, I am happy about the outcome.
    Look at all the shows that distort the Book of Mormon. I don't see them blowing up buildings and shooting up events like this.

    You either believe in free speech or you don't.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Look at all the shows that distort the Book of Mormon. I don't see them blowing up buildings and shooting up events like this.

    You either believe in free speech or you don't.
    I beleive in free speech (the event was and should be lawful). I also value the wisdom of not giving needless offense.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Look at all the shows that distort the Book of Mormon. I don't see them blowing up buildings and shooting up events like this.

    You either believe in free speech or you don't.
    I'm not defending the idiots in this story,
    but that doesn't mean what you think it means

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The guys drawing cartoons in Dallas were "protecting my rights"? Oh, please.
    You seem to make fun or question their rights. Rights you should be willing to fight for, not mock.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    It did not work well at all. But I am not laughing at that fact (well maybe a chuckle or two).

    The wisdom of Matthew 17:27 still applies:

    But so that we may not cause offense, go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours."

    Giving needless offense and causing a needless confrontation is still forbidden in Christianity (secularists, which nearly all of the contestants probably were, should still heed Mt. 17:27). In the end, it does not matter how skilled one is at arms*, or whether or not one "won" an avoidable confrontation on a particular occasion.

    * Speaking of skill with arms, the firefight was over in 15 seconds with both assault weapon type shooters KIA. No wild shooting and with one exception, no other people even injured. That demonstrates alot of skill. The security guards that I saw in photos looked far more "Blackwater" than ordinary guards or moonlighting PD. My guess is that the orgainizers knew to bring some "ringers".


    Yes, I agree. This event is not something I'd endorse or participate in, as I don't find it productive to go out of my way to offend people needlessly.

    I have no sympathy for the perps; ISIS needs to be destroyed and its sympathizers are either fanatics or idiots. But the Muhammad drawing event is something offensive to all Muslims and I wouldn't have gone within a mile of the place, willingly.

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