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Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

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Who did that?

cut him some slack its not easy defending free speech from criticism
 
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/facepalm

Thanks to those who provided links to the story, btw.

Yes, we are fortunate enough to live in a country where freedom of speech is allowed; however, freedom from consequence is not allowed.

…Such as the consequences of being murdered by those who disagree with what you have to say?

Facepalm, indeed.
 
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I'm hardly an apologist, and nothing in my post said a single word about people killed at the french magazine having "had it coming". If you can't respond to what I wrote, fine. But do not put words into my mouth that were never said nor implied.

It seemed clear enough what you wrote. People were murdered because someone else disagreed with what they had to say. If that's not what you meant by “…however, freedom from consequence is not allowed”, then you have some explaining to do.
 
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…Such as the consequences of being murdered by those who disagree with what you have to say?

Facepalm, indeed.

It seemed clear enough what you wrote. People were murdered because someone else disagreed with what they had to say. If that's not what you meant by “…however, freedom from consequence is not allowed”, then you have some explaining to do.

My entire quote, not just the snippet you chose to use, in context:

/facepalm

Thanks to those who provided links to the story, btw.

Yes, we are fortunate enough to live in a country where freedom of speech is allowed; however, freedom from consequence is not allowed. WTF were these idiots thinking? "Gee, it would be fun to entice angry Muslims to come and try to kill us while we mock them?" Thankfully, it wasn't worse... but I can't imagine why anyone would think such an in-your-face outrage would be a swell idea.
 
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Who did that?

Kobie, the left can't stand free speech-take political correctness for example. The attempts to get Rush Limbaugh off the air, etc. Its obvious.

Just as its obvious that freedom to keep and bear arms is the problem every time theres a school shooting, or that freedom of religion is preventing gays from being sold wedding cakes.

The left hates the constitution because its a restraint against their statist tendencies.
 
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True, but then again you can not harm people because they say something you do not like.

Well, that shouldn't be the case, but it is. And considering how eagerly at least one wrong-wing participant in this thread is to defend such “consequences”, is it any wonder that we've had so many other instances of careers and businesses ruined as a result of what ought to have been legitimate exercises of free speech and other First-Amendment rights?
 
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Well...lets see. People are saying that it is an expected 'consequence'....that one can expect such a response to an act of free speech from extremists-that sort of sounds like blaming the people that hosted and attened the free speech event, doesnt it? Does that mean we can soon expect other responses as a natural 'consequence' from extremists in the US?

See also: heckler's veto
 
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Sounds like the conservatives are killing each other.
 
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Kobie, the left can't stand free speech-take political correctness for example. The attempts to get Rush Limbaugh off the air, etc. Its obvious.

Just as its obvious that freedom to keep and bear arms is the problem every time theres a school shooting, or that freedom of religion is preventing gays from being sold wedding cakes.

The left hates the constitution because its a restraint against their statist tendencies.

Uh huh. Do you have these horse**** right-wing platitudes on a macro, or do you type them out each time you puke one up onto the forum?
 
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Sounds like the conservatives are killing each other.

possibly but you don't have to be conservative to despise Islam

hell you don't even have to despise Islam to draw Mohamed

and I guess I should add you don't have to despise Islam to be a non Muslim conservative
 
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Uh huh. Do you have these horse**** right-wing platitudes on a macro, or do you type them out each time you puke one up onto the forum?

Kobie, remember the hebdo incident where the US lefty media caved and refused to show the cartoons, and all the lefties here were defending it?
When it comes time to put your ideology to the test, the left caves like its cool.

Now I can't be held responsible for some of us not taking a stand, but I will call out those who hide behind the constitution only as it suits them. Sorry Kobie, enough of the spin-its obvious.
 
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Kobie, remember the hebdo incident where the US lefty media caved and refused to show the cartoons, and all the lefties here were defending it?
When it comes time to put your ideology to the test, the left caves like its cool.

Now I can't be held responsible for some of us not taking a stand, but I will call out those who hide behind the constitution only as it suits them. Sorry Kobie, enough of the spin-its obvious.

Uh huh.
 
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I'm not American. My first impulse is to be thankful that the casualties were minimal and that I'm glad the idiots who turned up butt hurt can do no further damage. My second is to be grateful that I live in a Country where a "family day" would involve barbecues, outdoor cricket and other fun activities for the children. I certainly wouldn't be encouraging a member of my family to attend an event with me that offered a $10,000 prize for the best caricature of any religous figure.

Each to his own I guess. Different strokes for different folks.

We Americans put a very high value on the freedom of speech. That includes speech that mocks religious beliefs--we throw some elbows here, and you need a thick skin to live in a free country. If any Islamist bastard imagines he has a referendum on what we say about his prophet in this country, he is dead wrong. This is not France.
 
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it might be blaming the people exercising free speech but that's not the same as excusing the criminals who are part of the consequence
So...its still the rapists fault...even if the woman did kinda ask for it. I understand what you mean.
 
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So...its still the rapists fault...even if the woman did kinda ask for it. I understand what you mean.

sounds about right but don't forget the woman is dumb for not having a better plan to deal with rapists to
 
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Two shot dead outside Muhammad Art Exhibit in Garland

This was at a facility in Garland, Texas, near Dallas.

I gather this was an exhibit of artwork that depicts Muhammad, a la Charlie Hebdo, in defiance of radical Muslims and in affirmation of freedom of speech.

Two guys drove up armed with guns and explosives, opened fire, and were killed straight away by return fire.

It's a bad idea to go gunning for any group of Texans without a lot of firepower.

Clearly a "workplace incident".
 
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sounds about right but don't forget the woman is dumb for not having a better plan to deal with rapists to
Yes, all a woman needs is a good plan to avoid being raped. It's amazing no one thought of this before, particularly in Africa and the Middle East.
 
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sounds about right but don't forget the woman is dumb for not having a better plan to deal with rapists to
OK then. Apparently in this case...the free speech rally folks are smarter than your average rape victim in your eyes.
 
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OK then. Apparently in this case...the free speech rally folks are smarter than your average rape victim in your eyes.

sure why not
 
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/facepalm

Thanks to those who provided links to the story, btw.

Yes, we are fortunate enough to live in a country where freedom of speech is allowed; however, freedom from consequence is not allowed.

You are absolutely correct,

Je suis Breivik.

Every Mosque in this country should be raised to the ground and the bombs and fire should not stop until every disgusting pedophile worshiper Christian massacring POS is pushed into the sea. Actions have consequence.
 
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