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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That's interesting. So you can't kill in others defense, eh?

    I'll bet you a dollar you don't believe this.
    OK - I'd include defence of the innocent too.
    I do believe the second point. It's a normal opinion. Look at it in terms of good manners, if you like.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Define risk.
    I consider the possibility of being blown up on the bus or in the subway a risk. I consider the possibility of being gunned down in the street while some assassin is trying to kill some Jews a risk. I could go on, but you get the point.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    And those being shot at (in an avoidable confrontation) should read and heed Matthew 17:27 about the wisdom of avoiding needless offense.
    You're right; they were provoked needlessly. Or as some would say, "given an occasion for sin," which is itself sinful.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    I never find the death of other human beings, however much they may have deserved it, to be a reason to rejoice.
    Good for you.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    So, will the G wish to ban 7.62x39 ammo now?
    What.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    I consider the possibility of being blown up on the bus or in the subway a risk. I consider the possibility of being gunned down in the street while some assassin is trying to kill some Jews a risk. I could go on, but you get the point.
    Any of those can happen at any time.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-scot View Post
    OK - I'd include defence of the innocent too.
    How about second and third order?

    I do believe the second point. It's a normal opinion. Look at it in terms of good manners, if you like.
    What is your opinion of Same Sex Marriage?
    “In America we have a two-party system,” a Republican congressional staffer told a visiting group of Russian legislators. “There is the stupid party. And there is the evil party. I am proud to be a member of the stupid party. Periodically, the two parties get together and do something that is both stupid and evil. This is called: bipartisanship."

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    What.
    Supposedly two AK47s were used. That is the caliber they generally are fitted with.
    Billions of those rounds are in circulation.
    Millions if not billions of AKs are in circulation.
    But they seem to be targeting the AR. Funny I find it.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Not really Anglo because their views on those issues that Kobie mentioned (Islam's horrendous treatment of women, the preponderance of extremism and anti-Semitism among many Muslims, and this ridiculous idea that drawing a picture of a dude is literally the worst thing you can do) are simply beyond repulsive and deserve no respect whatsoever.

    Take Pamela Geller for another example. She's the same as the WBC nutters. She isn't violent. She's a full blown, fair dinkum, right-wing extremist nutjob that should have the freedom to hold her "family day" gatherings without being attacked by extremists on the other side of the fence, but she certainly does not deserve any respect.
    You have to meet people where they are at. People can have all sorts of opinions which seem weird to us but are totally normal for someone from their background. We all know Islam is a heavy religion and rigid adherence is expected in many places. Many Muslims will be riven with internal conflicts, a bit like fundamentalist Christians. If we rule out dialogue because we can't stand their opinions, then we won't make much progress in resolving differences.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-scot View Post
    You have to meet people where they are at. People can have all sorts of opinions which seem weird to us but are totally normal for someone from their background. We all know Islam is a heavy religion and rigid adherence is expected in many places. Many Muslims will be riven with internal conflicts, a bit like fundamentalist Christians. If we rule out dialogue because we can't stand their opinions, then we won't make much progress in resolving differences.
    So how much sharia law would you like to adopt?

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