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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    If you look at the shooting and your first impulse is to criticize free speech, you are a HUGE part of what is wrong with America.
    The funny thing is,an Islam apologist believes that if you don't draw a cartoon everything will be fine.

    They don't seem to understand your entire culture,your existence and your lives are offensive to Islam.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    That is a whole other discussion, which is pretty irrelevant in this discussion.
    Not really. The Western approach to speech you strongly dislike is generally to get over it or, (in some less liberal countries such as Great Britain) to get the government to restrict it. In the Middle East, they tend to either lash you, chop parts off of you, or kill you outright. That's a fairly significant differential.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-scot View Post
    If you describe their opinions in that way, perhaps not. But people who hold those opinions, and don't do violence, do deserve respect - because they are people.
    Hey, if you're a Muslim who practices his or her religion peacefully, have at it. But Islam does have a real extremism problem right now, and if it's not going to be dealt with from the inside, sooner or later it's going to be dealt with from the outside. Murder in the name of religion is never justified.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Hey, if you're a Muslim who practices his or her religion peacefully, have at it. But Islam does have a real extremism problem right now, and if it's not going to be dealt with from the inside, sooner or later it's going to be dealt with from the outside. Murder in the name of religion is never justified.
    The problem with jihadi terrorism is not really new. The modern struggle is already going on for almost 40 years now and will undoubtedly continue for many more decades to come.

    While the broader issues facing the Islamic world are not unrelated, they are much more broad and less of an immediate concern for the rest of the World.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    Nope I'm thinking of the pedophile "prophet" mohammad (may piss be upon him).
    Well since the god of the bible is a pedophile, why not Mohammad and the Catholic priests, they're just emulating god, right?
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    I would advise others in this thread to disregard the hatemonger.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Kudos to the organizers of the event. Location, location, location. Two less crazies in the world.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Kudos to the organizers of the event. Location, location, location. Two less crazies in the world.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-scot View Post
    If you describe their opinions in that way, perhaps not. But people who hold those opinions, and don't do violence, do deserve respect - because they are people.
    Not really Anglo because their views on those issues that Kobie mentioned (Islam's horrendous treatment of women, the preponderance of extremism and anti-Semitism among many Muslims, and this ridiculous idea that drawing a picture of a dude is literally the worst thing you can do) are simply beyond repulsive and deserve no respect whatsoever.

    Take Pamela Geller for another example. She's the same as the WBC nutters. She isn't violent. She's a full blown, fair dinkum, right-wing extremist nutjob that should have the freedom to hold her "family day" gatherings without being attacked by extremists on the other side of the fence, but she certainly does not deserve any respect.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Nice to hear from the apologists.
    Or from those who value Mattthew 17:27.

    But so that we may not cause offense, go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours

    The admonition of Jesus against giving needless offense (and thereby engaging in avoidable confrontations) is still very valid. It clearly applies in this situation. The probably mostly secular cartoon contestants would do will to heed it.

    That aside, I am happy about the outcome.
    Last edited by Cryptic; 05-04-15 at 07:59 AM.

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