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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    What she was doing in Garland was looking to provoke a response that would justify her prejudices and, given that the people she was provoking are even more brain-dead and fanatically prejudiced than she is, she got it. Bravo! Of course to her, the fact that the method she used to provoke was also deeply insulting to the vast majority of peaceful, law-abiding Moslems doesn't bother her in the slightest, and that's because she hates peaceful, law-abiding Moslems as much as she hates the violent extremist ones. See it's not about a hatred of violence and extremism for her, it's about a hatred of Islam.
    I'm more pragmatic in my thoughts concerning Ms. Geller's motivations.

    I believe she is selling fear to make a buck - greed driven, even as far as to risk having the blood of innocent Americans on her hands.

    Pandering-for-profit is what I see, no different than Mr. Cruz, Mr. Limbaugh, Ms. Bachman, et al - the whole clown car of hucksters fleecing the fearful, xenophobic, naive & uninitiated, while they live the good-life off of other's dimes.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    I'm more pragmatic in my thoughts concerning Ms. Geller's motivations.

    I believe she is selling fear to make a buck - greed driven, even as far as to risk having the blood of innocent Americans on her hands.

    Pandering-for-profit is what I see, no different than Mr. Cruz, Mr. Limbaugh, Ms. Bachman, et al - the whole clown car of hucksters fleecing the fearful, xenophobic, naive & uninitiated, while they live the good-life off of other's dimes.
    And you call this "pragmatic"?

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    And you call this "pragmatic"?
    Yes, I believe she's in it for the money - perhaps one of the most basic motivators.

    Nothing tricky or complicated to understand here - pure Occam's razor.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Yes, I believe she's in it for the money - perhaps one of the most basic motivators.

    Nothing tricky or complicated to understand here - pure Occam's razor.
    I was mainly referring to the rest of your rant.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    I was mainly referring to the rest of your rant.
    Fair enough.

    I'm no fan of the motivations of the other's I've mentioned - fear is a powerful motivator, and this crowd really seems to know how to play it & foster it.

    I'll also add: There's a subset on the left that does the same, but the guys/gals I mentioned strike me as particularly egregious at the game.

    Then again, this seems to be standard to some degree amongst those in the political arena ...
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Hah, so you ARE saying that it should be "restricted". Hilarious.

    And I seem to understand free speech much better than you do.
    You have to remember that liberals "understand" that free speech and the free exercise of religion come with restrictions, and they are the ones best suited to define those restrictions

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    You have to remember that liberals "understand" that free speech and the free exercise of religion come with restrictions, and they are the ones best suited to define those restrictions
    Case in point:

    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    The right to freedom of speech is, like all rights and freedoms, not unlimited and absolute. But it should be limited only by the most necessary and obviously reasonable restrictions, i.e. restrictions having to do with direct calls for violence or other serious crimes; libel and slander against individual persons; treason.

    That is the ideal. Obviously every country is different and many make choices according to their specific circumstances. But in principle, any infringement of freedom of speech, except for the above-mentioned logical limits, is to be deplored.
    And Mrs. Geller's was a direct call for violence, and guess what, it worked.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And Mrs. Geller's was a direct call for violence, and guess what, it worked.
    That is a manifest lie.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Hah, so you ARE saying that it should be "restricted". Hilarious.

    And I seem to understand free speech much better than you do.
    Yes, OF COURSE it most definitely is restricted. You do not understand free speech in America, stop talking about it.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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