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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I know. I specifically state that what she says should be illegal but that what she also says was meant to incite anger in Muslims and bring out the worst. I don't see how the "right" for a lack of a better demographic loses by admitting this.
    It's beyond frustrating. The willful distortion of what "the left" thinks and believes is a brutally dishonest tactic that "the right" is more than eager to engage in. I'm just about ready to say to hell with it. I have better things to do than to sit here and have people lie to my face about what I just posted.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    It's beyond frustrating. The willful distortion of what "the left" thinks and believes is a brutally dishonest tactic that "the right" is more than eager to engage in. I'm just about ready to say to hell with it. I have better things to do than to sit here and have people lie to my face about what I just posted.
    Both sides have their debate tactics and this one is every bit as frustrating as when the left pulls the "bigot" card...

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Don't know how I did not connect that, my bad. I don't see this as criticism. If I criticised you as a parent and said, "hey, giving your son a time-out is more effective than you just up and spanking them Josie" or "spanking doens't work and you should know that it today's day and age" is criticism. If I make a picture of your enraged with your hand slow motion swinging at your kids face that is not criticism. That is just plain old fashioned dickish behaviour meant to piss you off. If "criticism" was all it took why hasn't Fox been attacked daily for years now?
    Okaaaay.... the word "criticism" isn't really the word that we're discussing. It's "incitement". Do you believe that Pamela Geller incited violence and will continue to incite violence if she has this event again?


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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Can we use the responsibility notion elsewhere. Such as, sure that black man the right to eat at the lunch counter, but he to be responsible with his liberties. He can't expect to eat at the counter without consequences.

    That was somewhat the way Democrats treated people they didn't like in the Jim Crow era. Some things never change
    No, you can't, it's stupid.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Let's try another example. Sure that baby killer has the right to open and abortion clinic, but he has to reap the consequences
    Another stupid. And what does that have to do whatsoever with my post that you quoted?
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Okaaaay.... the word "criticism" isn't really the word that we're discussing. It's "incitement". Do you believe that Pamela Geller incited violence and will continue to incite violence if she has this event again?
    Yes, Geller's audacious exercise in gratuitously offending the Muslim faith most certainly incited the violence brought to bear by the two now deceased attackers. And there's every reason to believe that violence would accompany any future Geller "events". Can you explain for us the benefit of Geller's Mohamed drawing events, its purpose and goals.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Okaaaay.... the word "criticism" isn't really the word that we're discussing. It's "incitement". Do you believe that Pamela Geller incited violence and will continue to incite violence if she has this event again?
    I believe 100% that incitement is her goal.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I believe 100% that incitement is her goal.
    Alright. And is inciting people to be violent against the law?


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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Alright. And is inciting people to be violent against the law?
    I clearly and repeatedly said that it is not against the law... it is just stupid and can get innocent people killed.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Alright. And is inciting people to be violent against the law?
    Of course it is. But it will require someone in law enforcement with the authority/jurisdiction to bring such charges against her. If that doesn't happen, I suppose it just remains stupid, irresponsible, gratuitously provocative speech.
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