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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I haven't ever said that. In fact, just once while you're here participating, actually pay attention. I've clearly stated that I don't want government restrictions on Geller or anyone else. I just want her to be responsible with her liberties.
    And what do you think she did that she bears responsibility for?

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There are thousands of pictures of Mohammed and this idea that no one can draw him is a recent phenomenon, much like the Burka in Iran or the west. Mohammed Image Archive
    Thats correct, and in some sects (that had more art/graphics than the script-only arabs of the arabian penninsula in early islam) its perfectly acceptable to have images of ole mo.

    They'd probably still want to kill you if you made an image they didn't like, though.

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    re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I see. It's not a debate programme but an agree-a-thon. Great advert for free speech.
    You should see MSNBC.

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    re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

    Quote Originally Posted by JFish123 View Post
    Liberals are all for debate unless you disagree with them. Liberals are all for freedom of speech unless they aren't offended by it. Liberals are not the ideology for freedom. Much like a theocrisy in the Middle East.
    And ever notice how it's always muslims who try to kill people they disagree with? When's the last time a Christian beheaded or blew themselves up? I dunno. Just a few thoughts in a free country... Supposedly
    Christians have killed their fair share of people that they disagreed with. Right now it's the Muslims doing a lot of that, but it's just as ugly. Also, I see liberals here debating all the time, so I don't know what you mean, but stick around and you'll see. Otherwise, liberals and conservatives alike have shared the freedoms that "the founders" established, and there's no point in you claiming that liberals don't like freedom. It could easily be argued that absent any value otherwise, Geller's expression is hate speech, which certainly can be prosecuted. And liberals are inclined towards an opposite ideology than ME theocracies that you suggest.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Christians have killed their fair share of people that they disagreed with. Right now it's the Muslims doing a lot of that, but it's just as ugly. Also, I see liberals here debating all the time, so I don't know what you mean, but stick around and you'll see. Otherwise, liberals and conservatives alike have shared the freedoms that "the founders" established, and there's no point in you claiming that liberals don't like freedom. It could easily be argued that absent any value otherwise, Geller's expression is hate speech, which certainly can be prosecuted. And liberals are inclined towards an opposite ideology than ME theocracies that you suggest.
    Ah yes the "Christians did it too (1000 years ago)" argument.

    Leftists and Islamic theocracies go together like peanut butter and jelly.

    If they didn't-we wouldn't even be discussing an attack by ISIS on American soil.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There are thousands of pictures of Mohammed and this idea that no one can draw him is a recent phenomenon, much like the Burka in Iran or the west. Mohammed Image Archive
    Pictures of Mohamed, are not the same as ridiculing caricatures of Mohamed. Why do you insist on diminishing yourself before this board?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So "Liberty on a Leash" applies then.

    It seems to me you're applying Taqiyya and Kitman on these boards and, if you live in the US, are relatively new there.
    Wrong. American citizens, and I'm trying to be patient with you, understanding that your unfamiliar with the benefits and the responsibilities of it, have plenty of limitations and restrictions upon their liberties, even though our liberties are greater than that of citizens in most countries, we don't live by anarchy here, regardless of what you may have heard. We have hate speech laws here, yes, there are things that you cannot say to a person based upon his sexual orientation, his faith or his race. And I would point out again, there's things on this forum that we cannot say to one another because of restrictions placed upon our speech here. Deal with it Grant. Geller's our problem, we'll deal with her. That is, unless some Muslim extremist kills her before we can reason with her.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Ah yes the "Christians did it too (1000 years ago)" argument.

    Leftists and Islamic theocracies go together like peanut butter and jelly.

    If they didn't-we wouldn't even be discussing an attack by ISIS on American soil.
    If we didn't have a bigoted moron with redneck racist followers poking a stick at an entire religion, we wouldn't be talking about this attack.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And in the almighty name of the first amendment. As though abusing the intent of our bill of rights to engage in hate and mean spirited expression makes them patriots, and brave.
    Twice now, I have challenged you to explain to us what speech anyone involved with the contest in Garland engaged in that was not protected by the First Amendment, and why. I now ask you once again.

    You have no answer, and neither your lame attempt to mock the First Amendment nor your prattling about "abusing the intent of the bill of rights" can hide that fact. Apparently you imagine the freedom of speech only allows other people to say things you approve of. I am glad to see you show everyone reading this thread just how illiberal your views really are, and just how much contempt you have for one of our most fundamental individual rights.

    Probably the only part of the Bill of Rights fake liberals despise as much as the First Amendment is the Second.

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    re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    If we didn't have a bigoted moron with redneck racist followers poking a stick at an entire religion, we wouldn't be talking about this attack.
    No, they would still hate you.

    Look at other nations subject to islamic terror-some have absolutely nothing to do with world leading events.

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