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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, it's called reap what you sew. Geller's bigoted expression (her right) has caused the injury of one. I'm under no illusion that she's learned a lesson, and in the future will exercise her liberty responsibly. I fully expect her and her psychotic supporters to continue until there's a Charlie Hebdo incident in America.
    Last I checked, words and ideas dont cause violence-and AK's and bombs do.

    Can you elaborate on how words caused the wound?

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Rightie statists refuse to acknowledge the obvious, even to them.

    Cause-and-effect will never be recognized by Rightists, even with a mass murder, and we were close to that as the Garland Mayor attests.

    Rightists already have their TPs lined up for such a mass murder--blaming lefties--as per the National Review and Daily Caller .
    Nimby if freedom scares you, you are free to pursue other avenues.

    Looks like you already may have.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, it's called reap what you sew. Geller's bigoted expression (her right) has caused the injury of one. I'm under no illusion that she's learned a lesson, and in the future will exercise her liberty responsibly. I fully expect her and her psychotic supporters to continue until there's a Charlie Hebdo incident in America.
    Geller is a xerox of Coulter.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Apparently you imagine that Justice Holmes' famous "crowded theater" example from Schenck applies to Ms. Geller's contest. How, exactly? Please tell us why, under the "clear and present danger" standard from Brandenburg v. Ohio, the speech she engaged in is not protected by the First Amendment.

    Ms. Geller's freedom of speech does not depend on whether you think what was said is "irresponsible," or on whether you think it gained anything. Neither does anyone else's. Or maybe you think the First Amendment should be ignored whenever it allows speech that peeves you. If so, your view is thoroughly illiberal.
    Leftists lack a basic understanding of the constitution (except in how to exploit it to further their goals), and so its always amusing to hear them try to spin together explanations, its almost superstitious, really.

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Last I checked, words and ideas dont cause violence-and AK's and bombs do.

    Can you elaborate on how words caused the wound?
    Can you tell me how that security guard would be laying wounded at present were it not for Geller's little immature and provocative exercise the other day.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thats nice but the problem is that though we dont have to agree, the constitution protects us both. You are now blaming those protections for the actions of terrorists.

    Nice try, but you are going to have to pound sand.
    Actually I don't have to do that. Once more USC, you have no protections to act irresponsible. People have to pay to be irresponsible.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thats nice but the problem is that though we dont have to agree, the constitution protects us both. You are now blaming those protections for the actions of terrorists.

    Nice try, but you are going to have to pound sand.
    I think the pajama-boy collectivists in this country are feeling pouty because their Islamist pals, who share their hatred of America and its values, got a whipping. And to make it worse, an uppity Jew dared to say something that made them feel all icky!

    The collectivists' lack of spine is showing itself. If these drones had been around on December 7, 1941, they'd be denouncing Americans as cowboys who, after having provoked the Japanese into violence, now wanted to overreact with more violence. As more evolved souls than the hoi polloi, they'd be calling for sensitivity toward Japanese culture and organizing workshops for anger management and grief counseling.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Apparently you imagine that Justice Holmes' famous "crowded theater" example from Schenck applies to Ms. Geller's contest. How, exactly? Please tell us why, under the "clear and present danger" standard from Brandenburg v. Ohio, the speech she engaged in is not protected by the First Amendment.

    Ms. Geller's freedom of speech does not depend on whether you think what was said is "irresponsible," or on whether you think it gained anything. Neither does anyone else's. Or maybe you think the First Amendment should be ignored whenever it allows speech that peeves you. If so, your view is thoroughly illiberal.
    It actually doesn't peeve me, I'm an atheist, so I don't care. But for whom it does matter, it escapes me why Geller insists that she must infringe upon the sensitivities of an entire (mighty large I'd point out) group of people to demonstrate to all that she's an American, and she has her rights. She's actually a selfish and bigoted bitch that put herself and others, not just the phsycos involved in her contest, at risk of injury or death. What we need is for all the defenders of free speech to boycott her, criticise her and make it clear to her that her gratuitous ridicule of another religions prophet is reprehensible. That said, I am not in favor of any government suppression of her speech. She may continue until she's dead, has caused the death of others or whatever it is that she's pursuing with her quest.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Can you tell me how that security guard would be laying wounded at present were it not for Geller's little immature and provocative exercise the other day.
    I can't think of a thing. Last I checked words dont cause injuries guy.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Actually I don't have to do that. Once more USC, you have no protections to act irresponsible. People have to pay to be irresponsible.
    So if terrorists declare that anyone who is Christian or reads a newspaper is subject to execution, the people who do/are therefore are responsible if a terrorist kills them?

    Im really loving your interpretation of liberty.

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