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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-scot View Post
    You seem to be suggesting that such events in Europe should now require armed vigilantes, instead of regular police. If there are security threats, I think we should leave it to the police to handle them, and of course the organisers should pay for the privilege.

    Of course a more sensible route would be to consult Muslim groups and even ask them to contribute to such event so that offence can be minimised and positive relations between different groups can be strengthened. If the group in Texas had made this kind of effort, then this incident would probably have been avoided. Unfortunately, they think Muslims are bad people and deserve a good kicking.
    So everybody who is threatened by violence from other intolerant people should pay for police protection?

    And again you explicitely advocate violence against those who you find offensive.

    Clearly you must disapprove very strongly of freedom of speech.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-scot View Post
    Agreed - even though these kind of attacks could have been anticipated, there is no justification for them. We can safely agree on that.

    On the issue of the right to insult the religious beliefs of others (and most religious believers are peaceful), then people who organise activities like this one in Texas put legislators in a very difficult situation. They force them to choose between security and freedom of speech. I hope they don't repeat this kind of stunt for the sake of the security of the silly people who turn up to them, and also for the sake of freedom of speech of many people, which they are jeopardising.
    Americans value their 1st amendment highly-mostly save some on the left. If the choice is between freedom of speech and censorship (and Im not saying it is), well im picking freedom of speech. Even if opponents say its "for our safety".

    The problem here is violent islam, not our freedom of speech.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    Agreed the death cult of Islam is truly an abuse of the 1st amendment and should be treated the same as all hate groups.

    “Muslims are the vilest of animals…”

    “Show mercy to one another, but be ruthless to Muslims”

    “How perverse are Muslims!”

    “Strike off the heads of Muslims, as well as their fingertips”

    “Fight those Muslims who are near to you”

    “Muslim mischief makers should be murdered or crucified”
    You're really starved for attention, aren't you? Pretty sad.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Americans value their 1st amendment highly-mostly save some on the left. If the choice is between freedom of speech and censorship (and Im not saying it is), well im picking freedom of speech. Even if opponents say its "for our safety".

    The problem here is violent islam, not our freedom of speech.
    Indeed. And by the way, protection is provided in Europe as well (and is often necessary). But there is no foolproof protection against fanatic terrorists.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Free speech has consequences but there should be few limits on its nature.



    I think the difference is that security in the US acted before the attackers got any victims. Such events in Europe have sadly had little armed official security in place and the consequences in France, Belgium and Denmark have been all too predictable.

    The response to and speed of neutralising the attack is a lesson to Western European countries when these free-speech events take place.
    Its almost like it takes men capable of violence in close proximity to stop the violent acts of aggressors. Lolz at choosing texas for an attack.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    It takes violence to stop the violence of aggressors. Euros want to pretend they dont know this.

    Lolz at choosing texas for this attack.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its almost like it takes men capable of violence in close proximity to stop the violent acts of aggressors. Lolz at choosing texas for an attack.
    Well, Mahor Hasan choose an army base in Texas. Of course that was just a workplace accident according to the current administration.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    Well, Mahor Hasan choose an army base in Texas. Of course that was just a workplace accident according to the current administration.
    It was as disguising calling a terror attack by a known islamist (that the govt was to PC to address), as it was referring to the Paris Jewish deli attack as random violence.

    Look how insane leftism is.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It was as disguising calling a terror attack by a known islamist (that the govt was to PC to address), as it was referring to the Paris Jewish deli attack as random violence.

    Look how insane leftism is.
    Let's see what briljant logic they come up with this time? Or maybe they will just ignore it and pretend it didn't happen.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    Then maybe you should start thinking about what you write before you post it.
    I do. Some debaters on this issue fall into the illogical trap of alleging that if you criticise the provocative actions of people who have been attacked, then you are automatically supporting the attacker.

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