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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas [W:439, 529]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Her purpose was likely to demonstrate, once again, how backward and simple-minded many Muslims are, and in a number of areas.

    Many know their attitudes toward women, Gays, education, dress, adultery, and so on and now more people will understand their response to any perceived 'provocation'.

    Yes, this was a predictable Muslim response and Geller knows her subject well, as most of us do. And of course it could have been much worse. But these two Muslims were intent on murdering innocent people somewhere and had they not been shot dead in Garland their lives may have ended only after they had murdered many other innocent people elsewhere..
    There is enough evidence without creating more though... right?
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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Nope. Sorry. There's no place for Constitutional compromise on this. The slope is too slippery and we're already half way down.

    The more we, all of us, unabashedly exercise our rights the less anyone will be inclined to think they can forcibly persuade us not to.
    I agree.

    Irrespective of my personal feelings on this, I unequivocally stand behind my fellow American's desire to exercise their right to free speech - period.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yes, why worry about the feelings of others when we can behave like morons/Muslim haters purely because there are some idiots in the Middle East who do bad things.

    And there are more than just terrorists that live in that region or that can and will be offended by such depictions.
    Again if these monsters in the middle east have no problem committing genocide against other groups of people, burning their religious books and destroying their holy sites then no one should give a rats ass about someone holding a lets draw their religious figure contest. The terrorist ball licking of how we shouldn't offend them should stop. These terrorists lost the right to complain about someone insulting their religion when they themselves insult other people's religions on a daily bases. This we shouldn't do something that offends these terrorists is nothing more than butt smooching the terrorists or tossing the salad (anal oral sex) of terrorists.

    Mock religion is one thing. You can mock Mohammed without depicting him. And I said doing it in a relevant situation fine, but make a contest in offending someone's religion is in poor taste.

    And homosexual social commentary is offensive to Christians? Really? I was not aware that everything gay is offensive to Christians but I guess Christian feelings are more important than Muslim feelings.
    You are going to whine how we shouldn't offending Muslims then you really have no room to cherry pick over what you can or can't do is offensive to other religions. Many of these things the left does to mock religious views of Christians is just as offensive as the depiction of Mohamed is to Muslims. It doesn't matter if you are doing to make a buck or hold a contest or because you think their religious book is no different than a Harry Potter book.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Where on earth would you get that idea? The mention of chemical and biological attacks/plots is important because those have the potential to cause the most harm. And there have been 12 such right wing plots and 1 left wing plots on US soil. Obviously conventional attacks are also important.

    And I did provide an accurate accounting, even though I did not record every single terrorist attack. The point isn't that Islamic terrorism isn't a threat, the point is that hyperventilating about the threat because of the attacks in Texas is ridiculous. There's more of a threat from right wing terrorist organizations (and left wing environmental terrorists as well).
    No, sorry, you don't get to back away from your stupid claim that there are more right wing terrorists. It's false. Patently false. The number of right wing terror attacks pales in comparison to Islamic terror attacks.

    Also, in a thread about terrorists trying to blow up a "Draw Mohammed" party it is hard to credibly use the "all clear!" defense.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Nobody is.
    I'm surprised that anyone thinks radical Muslims have feelers....what, are they insects or something?
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I'm surprised that anyone thinks radical Muslims have feelers....what, are they insects or something?
    You just insulted insects!!!!

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I'm surprised that anyone thinks radical Muslims have feelers....what, are they insects or something?
    I for one welcome our new insect overlords. I’d like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves.
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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    "Tolerance"! Drink!
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    Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    I agree.

    Irrespective of my personal feelings on this, I unequivocally stand behind my fellow American's desire to exercise their right to free speech - period.

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    Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Again if these monsters in the middle east have no problem committing genocide against other groups of people, burning their religious books and destroying their holy sites then no one should give a rats ass about someone holding a lets draw their religious figure contest. The terrorist ball licking of how we shouldn't offend them should stop. These terrorists lost the right to complain about someone insulting their religion when they themselves insult other people's religions on a daily bases. This we shouldn't do something that offends these terrorists is nothing more than butt smooching the terrorists or tossing the salad (anal oral sex) of terrorists.
    But the majority, the huge majority of Muslims are not monsters. That there are idiots burning books, idiots destroying holy sites, etc. etc. etc. does not say anything about the right of the hundreds of millions non-terrorists from complaining about insulting images of their prophet. You keep stating things about terrorists (who have indeed lost the right to complain about anything) but all the non-terrorists have rights too. Now we may not have to do anything with that but let's not pretend we are doing this to protect the right of free speech. We do this to protect the right of thumbing our nose at the feelings of others, which is fine if you want to do that, but let us be honest about it.

    If someone insults the United States (as a foreigner) or has criticism of the USA as an American he/she will be attacked with fervor. And that criticism can be almost very extreme and very vitriolic. That is something that seems to be the norm.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You are going to whine how we shouldn't offending Muslims then you really have no room to cherry pick over what you can or can't do is offensive to other religions. Many of these things the left does to mock religious views of Christians is just as offensive as the depiction of Mohamed is to Muslims. It doesn't matter if you are doing to make a buck or hold a contest or because you think their religious book is no different than a Harry Potter book.
    Yes, giving my opinion is whining

    I don't cherry pick, I do not like offending anyone's religion. But when Family guy does an episode they are doing it in the form of humor and they do it against anyone and the same goes for South Park. The problem is that many of these "freedom of speech means I can paint whatever picture of Mohammed I want" supporters go insane when you criticize something they support or believe in. That is the way most people react.

    And sorry, but there are many people (and in some countries that number goes up and up) who think all religious books are works of fiction. I am not going to compare it to Harry Potter books because I am a Potter fan
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