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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I don't think you're going to get many folks arguing in favor of not being saved v being saved in such a manner that you are injured. However, if you can be saved in such a manner that you are not injured, why wouldn't you choose that?
    It defeats the whole ****ing point of saving me from fire if you drag me through fire. lol.

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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by TextDriversKill View Post
    And who said there aren't enough male applicants.? Liberals are making stuff up again.
    Your lack of a yes or no answer is quite damning.

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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It defeats the whole ****ing point of saving me from fire if you drag me through fire. lol.
    Not necessarily - I'd much rather deal with burns and head injuries than be dead.

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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It defeats the whole ****ing point of saving me from fire if you drag me through fire. lol.
    the point was


    1) there aren''t enough firefighters to get to your house
    you die for certain
    2) there could be enough firefighters (but some are "weak").
    you get saved (and burned) sometimes, you get carried out (less burned) sometimes.


    which do you choose in this experiment?

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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Not necessarily - I'd much rather deal with burns and head injuries than be dead.
    Yes, but one of the jobs of a firefighter is to save the individual from being burned and injured. If they are being trained in such a way that causes injury and could very well cause burns it defeats a large purpose of their job. Sure, save me from the building, but how about doing it in such a way where I don't get burned. If women can't do the job effectively why in the hell would you hire them?

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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Really? Which jobs don't they have the ability for?
    evidently being a firefighter.

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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    That's awesome! I'm sure we will all be happy that someone died or got injured when an un qualified fireman was sent to their home, but at least it was a woman.
    I bet the city will be liable to whoever is hurt or injured because of her.

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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes, but one of the jobs of a firefighter is to save the individual from being burned and injured. If they are being trained in such a way that causes injury and could very well cause burns it defeats a large purpose of their job. Sure, save me from the building, but how about doing it in such a way where I don't get burned. If women can't do the job effectively why in the hell would you hire them?
    you would if there was a shortage of fire fighters capable of doing the job effectively. If so, then you are increasing your FD's performance. If not, then you are decreasing your FD's performance.


    So the question becomes (and thus far no one has answered) whether or not there is such a shortage. Given that they are still working through the recruits they got last time they offered intro exams in 2012, I'm going to bet that there is not.

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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes, but one of the jobs of a firefighter is to save the individual from being burned and injured. If they are being trained in such a way that causes injury and could very well cause burns it defeats a large purpose of their job. Sure, save me from the building, but how about doing it in such a way where I don't get burned. If women can't do the job effectively why in the hell would you hire them?
    And if we keep putting lower pay / benefits into the job (killing pensions for those "lazy 50 year old public sector retirees") do you think men will continue to overwhelmingly apply for this job into the future?

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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    the point was


    1) there aren''t enough firefighters to get to your house
    you die for certain
    2) there could be enough firefighters (but some are "weak").
    you get saved (and burned) sometimes, you get carried out (less burned) sometimes.


    which do you choose in this experiment?
    I would rather take my chances than rely on a force that has to drag me through fire. Hell, if I'm stuck chances are someone only capable of dragging me by my ankles isn't going to save me anyway.

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