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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Fundamental change. You wanted it, you got it.

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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    What does genetics have to do with anything? I'm sure Bruce Jenner in his prime could pass the test.
    But Bruce Jenner at his age could not. Male or female.

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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Fundamental change. You wanted it, you got it.
    What.
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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    I am retired from the Department of the Navy. I had over 41 years there as an electronics tech, IT specialist, instrument tech, and finally contract analysis. As an ET, I saw certain people get brought into our field, but where I worked, it was real cold inside the lab. There were huge mainframes that had to be kept ice cold. This woman they hired was so incompetent that she destroyed everything she touched. She constantly complained about the coldness of the lab, and that's how they got rid of her. She claimed she was freezing all the time.

    Before I retired, they promoted a black woman to GS-13, head project leader. She had to handle 20 to 30 projects at the same time. If the pressure got to her, she would burst into tears, throw a fit, and go home, and she lived 50 miles away in NC. The rest of us had to pick up the slack for her. She had all these math degrees and was an engineer, but every time she was assigned to do a heavily intensive mathematical cost model using statistical formulas, in Microsoft Excel, the model wouldn't work. Funny, I didn't have an engineering degree or a degree in mathematics, but I was always able to do the cost models, and every one of them did what they were supposed to do. If a minority wants to get ahead, the federal government is the place to go. There are a lot of minorities, Hispanics, Asians, and blacks, who have done good work, but this woman should never have been promoted.

    Next is the Spec Ops in the military. Watch the standards be lowered. Funny thing, though, the enemy doesn't lower their standards on the battlefield.

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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    I am retired from the Department of the Navy. I had over 41 years there as an electronics tech, IT specialist, instrument tech, and finally contract analysis. As an ET, I saw certain people get brought into our field, but where I worked, it was real cold inside the lab. There were huge mainframes that had to be kept ice cold. This woman they hired was so incompetent that she destroyed everything she touched. She constantly complained about the coldness of the lab, and that's how they got rid of her. She claimed she was freezing all the time.

    Before I retired, they promoted a black woman to GS-13, head project leader. She had to handle 20 to 30 projects at the same time. If the pressure got to her, she would burst into tears, throw a fit, and go home, and she lived 50 miles away in NC. The rest of us had to pick up the slack for her. She had all these math degrees and was an engineer, but every time she was assigned to do a heavily intensive mathematical cost model using statistical formulas, in Microsoft Excel, the model wouldn't work. Funny, I didn't have an engineering degree or a degree in mathematics, but I was always able to do the cost models, and every one of them did what they were supposed to do. If a minority wants to get ahead, the federal government is the place to go. There are a lot of minorities, Hispanics, Asians, and blacks, who have done good work, but this woman should never have been promoted.

    Next is the Spec Ops in the military. Watch the standards be lowered. Funny thing, though, the enemy doesn't lower their standards on the battlefield.
    Tell me you aren't suggesting the men never behave the same way? Holey Toledo, the moaning and bitching from men in many jobs is as bad or worse. I think you are just accustomed to the male way of bitching and don't tolerate the female way of bitching. My daughter's boss is exactly like the project leader you mention, always some dramatic bs, and he has leave and then be gone for weeks.
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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Tell me you aren't suggesting the men never behave the same way? Holey Toledo, the moaning and bitching from men in many jobs is as bad or worse. I think you are just accustomed to the male way of bitching and don't tolerate the female way of bitching. My daughter's boss is exactly like the project leader you mention, always some dramatic bs, and he has leave and then be gone for weeks.
    In private industry where schedules have to be completed on time, an employee like that will eventually be fired. Private industry doesn't put up with that. If you don't want to do the job, male or female, you are out. Now, the federal government keeps them all. It is next to impossible to get rid of a career civil service employee, and that especially hurts when they are that incompetent.

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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    I am retired from the Department of the Navy. I had over 41 years there as an electronics tech, IT specialist, instrument tech, and finally contract analysis. As an ET, I saw certain people get brought into our field, but where I worked, it was real cold inside the lab. There were huge mainframes that had to be kept ice cold. This woman they hired was so incompetent that she destroyed everything she touched. She constantly complained about the coldness of the lab, and that's how they got rid of her. She claimed she was freezing all the time.

    Before I retired, they promoted a black woman to GS-13, head project leader. She had to handle 20 to 30 projects at the same time. If the pressure got to her, she would burst into tears, throw a fit, and go home, and she lived 50 miles away in NC. The rest of us had to pick up the slack for her. She had all these math degrees and was an engineer, but every time she was assigned to do a heavily intensive mathematical cost model using statistical formulas, in Microsoft Excel, the model wouldn't work. Funny, I didn't have an engineering degree or a degree in mathematics, but I was always able to do the cost models, and every one of them did what they were supposed to do. If a minority wants to get ahead, the federal government is the place to go. There are a lot of minorities, Hispanics, Asians, and blacks, who have done good work, but this woman should never have been promoted.

    Next is the Spec Ops in the military. Watch the standards be lowered. Funny thing, though, the enemy doesn't lower their standards on the battlefield.

    I think the bigger problem here is that people are using Excel to do anything of consequence.

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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    I think the bigger problem here is that people are using Excel to do anything of consequence.
    Excel is a good program, but it was the only program that NMCI (Navy Marine Corps Intranet) allowed the Navy to have without extensive, expensive tests on other software before it would be accepted. Guess, who did the testing, the customer, mainly we in the Navy, who had requested the software. Excel has many add-in formulas, not to mention the macros you could write in Visual Basic. I hated Lotus 123, which we had before the Navy adopted all Microsoft products. Now, I hated Access. That was one difficult database program. We even used Excel as a database program. You couldn't beat Dbase, though.

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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Really? Which jobs don't they have the ability for?
    Clearly firefighter.

    Marine infantry officer ain't looking so good either.
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    Re: Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Really? Which jobs don't they have the ability for?
    If they had the ability to do certain jobs the requirements wouldn't need to be lowered, but considering they have been lowered in the military, police, and fire departments since the beginning of the whole equal employment farce it's pretty obvious they can't do the job. Saying that however there is exceptions to every rule, but like always it's wise to base your decisions on the rule, not the exceptions to it. Hiring women for certain jobs is like hiring an old man to for certain jobs. Well, I could hire that strong twenty year old, but that six-seven year old is just as good. Yeah, in the land of unicorns.

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