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    Re: House votes to strike down D.C. law banning reproductive discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    What a moronic and ignorant thing to say. Considering the number of women who have had abortions and are employed, it is clear that rational employers do not share your extremist idiotic views.
    What is moronic or ignorant about that? Seems quite a sane opinion and certainly one that is protected by the constitution. Why should anyone be forced to employ someone that did something they consider to be murder?

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    Re: House votes to strike down D.C. law banning reproductive discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    What is moronic or ignorant about that?
    The total disconnect from reality and intelligent reasoning. Much like your post.

    Seems quite a sane opinion
    Yes, even some of the dumbest things in life seem sane to some.

    and certainly one that is protected by the constitution.
    So what? So were the morons protesting at service men's funerals. Does not change what they are and is.

    Why should anyone be forced to employ someone that did something they consider to be murder?
    Nobody said otherwise. Maybe you should improve your reading comprehension.
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    Re: House votes to strike down D.C. law banning reproductive discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I think you might have a rather queer view of what libertarian means. Why should a libertarian approve elective abortion? It seems odd to me.
    I thought libertarians were against government interference in the personal decisions of adults. Are you saying, that only somethings the government does or wishes to do might be seen as "governmental over-reach".

    There is a reason the anti-abortion crowd prefers the term "pro-abortion" when speaking of their opponents. Pro-choice sounds a bit more in the libertarian side of the political spectrum, more traditionally American.
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    Re: House votes to strike down D.C. law banning reproductive discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I thought libertarians were against government interference in the personal decisions of adults. Are you saying, that only somethings the government does or wishes to do might be seen as "governmental over-reach".

    There is a reason the anti-abortion crowd prefers the term "pro-abortion" when speaking of their opponents. Pro-choice sounds a bit more in the libertarian side of the political spectrum, more traditionally American.
    Libertarians are not all stupid. Most of them know quite well, that a society needs rules to survive. And as far as the way words sound, don't give that too much weight other than for the populist quality they have. You could just as easily as "pro-choice" call it "pro-killer" and would have the same activity in mind.

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    Re: House votes to strike down D.C. law banning reproductive discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Libertarians are not all stupid. Most of them know quite well, that a society needs rules to survive. And as far as the way words sound, don't give that too much weight other than for the populist quality they have. You could just as easily as "pro-choice" call it "pro-killer" and would have the same activity in mind.
    However, by using the phrase "pro-killer" you are deliberately instilling into the minds of the public the idea that those who advocate "pro-choice" are evil people. Words matter, and which ones are used in discussion does affect public perceptions
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    Re: House votes to strike down D.C. law banning reproductive discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    However, by using the phrase "pro-killer" you are deliberately instilling into the minds of the public the idea that those who advocate "pro-choice" are evil people. Words matter, and which ones are used in discussion does affect public perceptions
    Of course, spin is a useful tool in politics. That is why we have spin doctors, as the English used to call them. But the reality is the same, whether you call them "pro-choicers" or "pro-killers". The people support the free choice to kill defined types of human.

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    Re: House votes to strike down D.C. law banning reproductive discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Of course, spin is a useful tool in politics. That is why we have spin doctors, as the English used to call them. But the reality is the same, whether you call them "pro-choicers" or "pro-killers". The people support the free choice to kill defined types of human.
    Until quite recently, that being inside its mother was not considered to be human until it took its first breath. In some cultures, the infant wasn't seen as human until it had survived the first six months after birth. The modern belief that once an egg and a sperm have joined, it is a human being, simply makes no sense except as a matter of religious dogma.

    My point - I and others do not see a blastula, foetus or embryo as a human.
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    Re: House votes to strike down D.C. law banning reproductive discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    How anyone can look at this and not see that the people of DC need to be governing themselves, out from the thumb of elected leaders from other states, is crazy. DC needs to be a state. The land on which the three main government buildings sit can stay federal land, but the people of the city need the same rights and representation as the rest of the nation.



    You might start by recognizing that your beliefs don't get special privilege and don't get to be enshrined in the law over anyone else's. You want to make laws? Then you need facts and not beliefs.
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    Re: House votes to strike down D.C. law banning reproductive discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Maryland is a good name for such a proposed state.
    Columbia would be better, IMO
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    Re: House votes to strike down D.C. law banning reproductive discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Columbia would be better, IMO
    Nope, it's purely a scam to make more democratic urban senators. There is no reason to make DC a state, and if the people want congressional representation then retrocede the land back to maryland.
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