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    Pay-to-Stay Jail Programs Offer Upgraded Cells For a Price

    Isn't this special? If you have the money you don't have to stay with those 'others' even when you have killed a person.

    Pay-to-Stay Jail Programs Offer Upgraded Cells For a Price

    Jail isn’t meant to be comfortable. But in some SoCal cities, for the right price, they can be decidedly more so than for most of the general prison population, to the outrage of crime victims and their families.
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    On Aug. 22, 2010, Chiho Hayakawa’s daughter, Mai, was killed instantly in a deadly DUI crash. She was the passenger in a Toyota Celica that was unrecognizable after the collision. The drunken driver of the car was Mai’s classmate, a man named Michael Keating.

    Hayakawa said Keating never apologized to her family, and then, was given upgraded jail accommodations when his family shelled out tens of thousands of dollars.
    Called “pay-to-stay,” the cells can be found in Seal Beach, Anaheim, Arcadia, Burbank, Glendale, Huntington Beach, Pasadena, Santa Ana and Torrance, at nightly rates of $127 to $143. In some cities, the non-violent offender’s cell doors are not locked, and the prisoners are free to come and go to their jobs on a daily basis.

    Now that's what you call "equal justice"
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    Re: Pay-to-Stay Jail Programs Offer Upgraded Cells For a Price

    Those darned republicants must be behind this scandal.
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    Re: Pay-to-Stay Jail Programs Offer Upgraded Cells For a Price

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Now that's what you call "equal justice"
    That's what you call an incompetently managed state doing whatever it can to balance a budget.

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    Re: Pay-to-Stay Jail Programs Offer Upgraded Cells For a Price

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    That's what you call an incompetently managed state doing whatever it can to balance a budget.
    Those are not state prisons but instead are city and county jails. In other words not relevant to the state's budget situation. In fact most of the towns listed, particularly in Orange County are controlled by Republicans - just check who they elect to Congress.

    Also, why are you ignoring the point of the OP? Which is, for your edification, IF you got the cash, you ain't gonna suffer like those others, who may have been convicted of lesser crimes. Yeah, equality for all.
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    Re: Pay-to-Stay Jail Programs Offer Upgraded Cells For a Price

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    That's what you call an incompetently managed state doing whatever it can to balance a budget.
    Nope, that is what I call the "just us" system where special criminals get special treatment. One can hardly expect to balance a city budget by charging a handful of (268) prisoners a whopping $70K (combined) per year.
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    Re: Pay-to-Stay Jail Programs Offer Upgraded Cells For a Price

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Those are not state prisons but instead are city and county jails. In other words not relevant to the state's budget situation. In fact most of the towns listed, particularly in Orange County are controlled by Republicans - just check who they elect to Congress.
    Ok, let me rephrase. That's what you call incompetently managed cities doing whatever they can to balance a budget. And spare me the partisan nonsense. I'm not a partisan.

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    Re: Pay-to-Stay Jail Programs Offer Upgraded Cells For a Price

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Isn't this special? If you have the money you don't have to stay with those 'others' even when you have killed a person.



    Called “pay-to-stay,” the cells can be found in Seal Beach, Anaheim, Arcadia, Burbank, Glendale, Huntington Beach, Pasadena, Santa Ana and Torrance, at nightly rates of $127 to $143. In some cities, the non-violent offender’s cell doors are not locked, and the prisoners are free to come and go to their jobs on a daily basis.

    Now that's what you call "equal justice"
    Do you know the difference between jail and prison?

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    Re: Pay-to-Stay Jail Programs Offer Upgraded Cells For a Price

    meh why not. We already allow the wealthy to buy or delay their way out of jail by purchasing the better lawyers and allow bail to serious flight risks. Now even if by some miracle the rich are convicted, we can make it no loss for them. Got $100 million? Your 'cell' can be the entire riker's island and everyone else gets shipped off to "tent city". Yay justice!

    I also have to laugh at the $147 nightly rate and "free to come and go their job," as if most jobs can even cover the $53,508 annual cost of the cells. Look if you can afford that for a slightly better cell, you don't need to work

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    Re: Pay-to-Stay Jail Programs Offer Upgraded Cells For a Price

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Those darned republicants must be behind this scandal.
    You mean the California "ReTHUGlicants"?

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    Re: Pay-to-Stay Jail Programs Offer Upgraded Cells For a Price

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Isn't this special? If you have the money you don't have to stay with those 'others' even when you have killed a person.



    Called “pay-to-stay,” the cells can be found in Seal Beach, Anaheim, Arcadia, Burbank, Glendale, Huntington Beach, Pasadena, Santa Ana and Torrance, at nightly rates of $127 to $143. In some cities, the non-violent offender’s cell doors are not locked, and the prisoners are free to come and go to their jobs on a daily basis.

    Now that's what you call "equal justice"
    I'm leaning to your point of view on this topic. However, don't forget that most people in JAIL as opposed to prison haven't been convicted of anything.

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