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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    This was a purely political act. Depraved heart, really? Because they didn't put on a seat belt. She is an absolute disgrace. More like Depraved Democrats.
    In your system of Justice it is normal to lay a long list of charges.
    Reason why many, even the innocent take a plea deal, because if convicted on 1 or 2 they are getting a longer sentence.
    What you should ask- why does the US have such a high conviction rate?
    Why are prosecutes, those guilty of wit holding evidence, not jailed, disbarred and prevented from serving in any office aside from cleaning up dog poop from local parks.
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    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    One of the Prosecutors largest donors is the attorney for the Family of Freddie Gray and she's married to a City Council member.

    Don't you think she should recuse herself ?
    Haha, these are democrats, that doesn't apply. You, silly!
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Only if you take the events in Baltimore as a universal situation.
    As someone that spent a year on ride-a-longs with the police (I wanted to be a cop) I saw my fair share of overly physical treatment. I saw people treated like scum and often used as a tactic to get people angry so they could be searched and/ or arrested. Again, I don't think that what happened in Baltimore is indicative of the majority of arrests across the US, but I would say that it happens far more often than it should.
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    In your system of Justice it is normal to lay a long list of charges.
    Reason why many, even the innocent take a plea deal, because if convicted on 1 or 2 they are getting a longer sentence.
    What you should ask- why does the US have such a high conviction rate?
    Why are prosecutes, those guilty of wit holding evidence, not jailed, disbarred and prevented from serving in any office aside from cleaning up dog poop from local parks.
    We don't know what happened at this point, and she certainly hasn't done a thorough investigation. What if they are guilty of some kind of negligence, or not guilty of anything. Why charge them with these crimes that will require a lot of conclusive evidence to convict, which she doesn't have at this point? And doesn't even know if it exists.

    They may be guilty and get off because they won't be able to convict. Or, they may be innocent and take a plea to avoid a chance of going away for a long time. Both are not the outcomes that we want. She is not doing her job.
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    No....
    Lol !!

    Imagine that. The Police officers deserve a fair trial ?

    Or do you have your mind made up ?

    It doesn't matter. The Cops are going to walk and Baltimore will slip further into the corrution and poverty and crime because they keep electing Democrat morons like this Prosecutor and the Mayor.

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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    CNN is talking her up like she's MLK and Lincoln wrapped into a single person. I predict by tomorrow she will be on a short list to be Hillary's running mate.

    Why do you think she is bringing charges.
    The Gruber-crat is strong in this one!

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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Based on the charges and the attorney's description of events, I suspect the majority of the charges will be dropped..

    Also interesting to note that the attorney references "no justice, no peace". Sounds almost like she stated I made these charges because of the riots.

    My sentiments as well. This case is now becoming similar to the Duke University Lacrosse players case that the prosecuting attorney swore by just to win favor from the black community and to get re-elected. When it was all said and done, the whole case was thrown out because of contrived evidence.

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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Four words - 'Innocent until proven guilty'.

    Please remember them.
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    My sentiments as well. This case is now becoming similar to the Duke University Lacrosse players case that the prosecuting attorney swore by just to win favor from the black community and to get re-elected. When it was all said and done, the whole case was thrown out because of contrived evidence.
    While I agree the Duke case was a sham, the circumstances here are much different. A man has died in police custody. The only question is did he kill himself was his death an accident or was there malice involved.

    I look forward to seeing more evidence.
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by csbrown28 View Post
    I'm sorry am I the only one that thinks this should NEVER happen?
    Not that I am aware of. Perhaps you missed the very first sentence of the second portion that you quoted?

    But moral posturing doesn't really get much support, here. No one feels obligated to celebrate politically correct paeans.

    Police intentionally hurting their prisoners as a form of punishment? Does anyone think that abusing prisoners is funny?
    Well, it can be funny. It remains, however, wrong.

    Do we want police that take joy in retaliation of those that have been captured to be on our police forces?
    Nope. That sort of thing builds up, like a drug tolerance. Typically it's not the new, inexperienced guys you have to worry about with abuse, it's the experienced guys who have been around the block a few times.

    The article seems to suggest that cops know there being watched now and that is, I assume, the reason it happens less. So the malice of the police remains, it's just that they have fewer places to abuse their prisoners with impunity?
    they are human, after all. All of our behavior improves when we believe we are being observed v when we are not. The average person is capable of some pretty horrid abuses towards his fellow man when he feels he will face no consequences for it. Better training is also likely partly responsible.

    It's interesting to note that the van Mr. Gray was killed in didn't have a camera so how can we really say it happens less often? Did the drive know that (or course he did) and does that explain the officers conduct? I dunno, just asking.
    Baltimore has resisted getting them - something you can bet they are reversing now. It seems to have generally been a poorly run city.
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