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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

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    It happens more than we wish to admit. Ever wonder how a prison guard can get even with a prisoner?
    Again, I'd define the balance as giving the officers what they need to keep themselves as safe as possible while keeping the public as safe as possible, not just from death but from injury as well. It's clear to me that that balance hasn't been struck and the poorer you are and the less capable you are of defending yourself after an incident, the more likely you will be to be a victim of abuse by police. Given that it's impossible to document, we have no idea how often it really happens, but I've seen enough on my own to convince me it happens wayyyy too much.
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    I'm glad the officers involved are being held accountable. But... and it's a big one... arrest is one thing, conviction is another. Most police officers who are actually arrested and go to trial are acquitted, regardless of the circumstances. Look at those Fullerton police officers who repeatedly tazed a handcuffed, mentally disturbed man, then beat and kicked him to death. Every bone in his face was fractured. His face was completely black, unrecognizable, and the size of a watermelon. Almost all of the incident was caught on video, witnessed by dozens of people... yet they were acquitted, even in the face of indisputable evidence that they had literally murdered a handcuffed man.

    My main fear is that if... or when... these officers are acquitted, last week's riot in Baltimore will look like mere foreplay to the explosion of violence that will be unleashed. I truly hope they have a bulletproof case, but even if they do, events in Fullerton reveal that isn't enough to get convictions against police officers who have clearly abused their authority.

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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Any chance there will be charges against the AG? Do you think she will provide any evidence for these charges? Will she talk about the relationship she has with the family's attorney?

    What about a conflict of interest? Did she overcharge this case in order to help the family's civil suit, to help them get more money?

    There are a lot of questions that she needs to answer after what she has done today.
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

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    Any chance there will be charges against the AG? Do you think she will provide any evidence for these charges? Will she talk about the relationship she has with the family's attorney?

    What about a conflict of interest? Did she overcharge this case in order to help the family's civil suit, to help them get more money?

    There are a lot of questions that she needs to answer after what she has done today.
    CNN is talking her up like she's MLK and Lincoln wrapped into a single person. I predict by tomorrow she will be on a short list to be Hillary's running mate.

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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by csbrown28 View Post
    Again, I'd define the balance as giving the officers what they need to keep themselves as safe as possible while keeping the public as safe as possible, not just from death but from injury as well. It's clear to me that that balance hasn't been struck and the poorer you are and the less capable you are of defending yourself after an incident, the more likely you will be to be a victim of abuse by police. Given that it's impossible to document, we have no idea how often it really happens, but I've seen enough on my own to convince me it happens wayyyy too much.
    I agree. Why are not Officer involved shootings- from shots fired no injuries to death not mandatory to compile and report.

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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Any chance there will be charges against the AG? Do you think she will provide any evidence for these charges? Will she talk about the relationship she has with the family's attorney?

    What about a conflict of interest? Did she overcharge this case in order to help the family's civil suit, to help them get more money?

    There are a lot of questions that she needs to answer after what she has done today.
    You carry on as if what she did was illegal?

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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    All six officers have been charged. Now it goes to Grand Jury. As I read over the charges those are some pretty high charges for someone to be charged with and with that comes proof some pretty high proof they are warranted.
    •Officer Caeser B. Goodson, Jr. was charged with second-degree depraved heart murder, involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, two counts of manslaughter by vehicle and misconduct in office.
    •Officer William G. Porter was charged with involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault and misconduct in office.
    •Lt. Brian W. Rice was charged with involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree assault, two counts of misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
    •Officer Edward M. Nero charged with two counts of second-degree assault, two counts of misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
    •Officer Garret Miller charged with two counts of second-degree assault, two counts of misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
    •Sgt. Alicia White involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault and misconduct in office.

    Warrants have been issued for the arrest of the officers.

    But what if they can't prove the level of the charges against these officers? What if the Grand Jury can't justify such charges and throws the case out for some or all? What is that going to do for those who have already made up their mind the officers are guilty of the crimes they have been charged with? Will that cause an uproar of burn the bitch down again?

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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    You carry on as if what she did was illegal?
    It stinks of corruption. I know that can't be, since it's all run by democrats in Baltimore. But there's a small chance.
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    It stinks of corruption. I know that can't be, since it's all run by democrats in Baltimore. But there's a small chance.
    Is that all you have?

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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

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    CNN is talking her up like she's MLK and Lincoln wrapped into a single person. I predict by tomorrow she will be on a short list to be Hillary's running mate.

    'Bout as dumb as Joe the Plummer or that lady from Alaska with the reality TV family.....
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