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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by csbrown28 View Post
    From your link....



    I'm sorry am I the only one that thinks this should NEVER happen? Police intentionally hurting their prisoners as a form of punishment? Does anyone think that abusing prisoners is funny? Do we want police that take joy in retaliation of those that have been captured to be on our police forces?

    The article seems to suggest that cops know there being watched now and that is, I assume, the reason it happens less. So the malice of the police remains, it's just that they have fewer places to abuse their prisoners with impunity?

    I don't know I'm asking, but that's what the article seems to suggest.

    It's interesting to note that the van Mr. Gray was killed in didn't have a camera so how can we really say it happens less often? Did the drive know that (or course he did) and does that explain the officers conduct? I dunno, just asking.
    It happens more than we wish to admit. Ever wonder how a prison guard can get even with a prisoner?
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Wha???

    Do we work for them? Or do they work for us?

    This attitude is exactly the problem!

    If our current civil servants will not do their job, do what Reagan did when PATCO pulled the same stunt - fire them & hire someone willing to do the job!

    Around here officers are making six figures after 4-5 years on the job, with benefits that our phenomenal compared to the average working Joe, and pensions that most of us can only dream about.

    I'm sure that over time NYC could find some good new recruits that want to do their job and do it well, IF the power from the top is willing to lean on them & make it clear the same-old same-old is over. Just like PATCO!

    The culture you describe has to be broken. (and hopefully we're seeing the beginning)

    that's fine

    you going to be the first volunteer?

    you get 45k annually.....for putting your life on the line daily

    dont make a mistake....they arent allowed

    oh, and the best part.....most of the people you will be responsible for looking after, absolutely hate you, and everything you stand for

    but you are going to sign right up.....right?
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Manslaughter seems an appropriate charge. Its interesting that the prosecutors also cited that Gray was arrested illegally since there was no basis for why he was being detained (the knife he was carrying was legal). One cop is going to be charged with 2nd degree depraved heart murder though, but what does that even mean?
    One of the Prosecutors biggest Political donors is the attorney for Freddie Gray and she's also married to a City Council member.

    She should recuse herself and a independent prosecutor should be brought in.

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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    Anyone who is currently or wants to go into law enforcement, are idiots. The job is dangerous enough without the DOJ and whiny liberals cities and states wanting to imprison you for trying to do a very difficult job.

    used to be a very sought out profession

    cops were heralded as professional dedicated guys and gals

    now....no way in hell

    especially in any urban area.....let it burn
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    One of the Prosecutors biggest Political donors is the attorney for Freddie Gray and she's also married to a City Council member.

    She should recuse herself and a independent prosecutor should be brought in.
    I guess that's how they like to run the city of Baltimore. Nice and close that way.
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    When the officers are exonerated, Baltimore will be reduced to ashes.

    And good luck finding qualified applicants for that police department moving forward.

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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    I got the opinion that the charges were more emotionally based than rationally based.

    The three main problems with their conduct were:

    1. Improper detainment
    2. Not using a seat belt
    3. Not rendering aid promptly

    All of those are serious for sure, but they don't arise to murder. Negligence, manslaughter, or something lesser for sure. But this is not a murder case. She bit off more than she can win and will likely lose the entire case because she will come off as emotional and vindictive rather than rational and logical.
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    When the officers are exonerated, Baltimore will be reduced to ashes.

    And good luck finding qualified applicants for that police department moving forward.
    Why is it so hard for you to believe that some Baltimore police are bad cops OR that the cops involved in this situation were negligent in the treatment of someone in their custody? Are you so pro-cop that you just can't conceived of the mere possibility that these policemen did anything wrong?
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    I just heard half of these Officers are black.

    " Racist police " !

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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    The most likely explanation is that what can be proved in civil court may be hard to prove in a criminal trial.

    There are just short of a million federal, state, and local sworn officers in the US. Of those ~388 a year (2012) shoot a suspect, and most of the time this is justified. Over a 20 year career the chances that an officer will shoot a suspect are about 0.8%. The chances that a given young man will be shot by any cop over 20 years are about 0.00133%. From this I conclude that the panic over police shootings is not justified.
    So your method is to apply math, show how insignificant the number is and simply disregard because you perceive the number is low enough not to "panic"? The number should be as low is it can be an allow officers to do their jobs and, at the same time, provide the greatest amount of respect to citizens that come in contact with officers. I'm saying that that balance has not been stuck at this point.

    Overall violent crimes are dropping, but violence by police is increasing.

    Otherwize, I don't take issue with what you've said, but what if he hadn't been grievously injured? That's the question I'm asking. Would we have even heard about this? Maybe maybe not, but if he had just been "roughed up", some black and blue, maybe a fracture, cracked skull, this would have been a non-story. Even if it played in the news, Mr. Gray is just another thug that got what was coming to him. The problem is that to many police believe that that can treat people with disrespect that can ranges from intimidation, to slapping, tugging, frisking (males on females) and all other sorts of behavior. It is this freedom to abuse and disrespect people that attracts the wrong kinds of people to become police officers. Put a camera in every car, put a camera in every van ect and weed out the bad apples.
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