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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

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    A most dangerous act, carrying a knife while riding a bicycle.
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    As Baltimore Protests And Riots, Black Violence Goes Completely Ignored – Downtrend

    Unfortunately, as this narrative gains steam the REAL issues will be ignored. Neuter the Police Departments and watch neighborhoods and cities devolve down into 3rd world look alikes that will offer up a weekly double digit body count.

    One things certain, there will be no protest or riots to call attention to it.
    No one is neutering the Police- they have regs and laws that apply.
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

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    Which is really kinda interesting. BPD is roughly 50% black, the Chief is black, the Mayor is Black....the prosecutor is black, and Democrats have been running Baltimore since the 60s.....why haven't they "fixed" it?
    I have no answer for that.
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Why are you playing at being obtuse?
    The information was already provided.
    It has also been pointed out that they had no probable cause.

    They thought the knife was illegal (and it very well may be as already pointed out), giving them probable cause to arrest.
    So, you're saying the cops don't understand the laws they're meant to enforce?

    And yes they thought they saw a drug deal, so ye they had probable cause to give chase and detain.
    No, they didn't.
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It has also been pointed out that they had no probable cause.

    So, you're saying the cops don't understand the laws they're meant to enforce?

    No, they didn't.
    You are playing a ridiculous game and going in circles.
    What was pointed out was that the claim was wrong and why it was wrong.
    They had probable cause.
    You still haven't refuted that.
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    From the beginning, I was suspicious of the inmate's claim that Gray injured himself. It's difficult to believe that somebody could severe their own spine.

    I also never understood why the police arrested him either. Since when it is a crime to not make eye contact with the police?


    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It all needs to be proven in a court of law. But it turns out that the inmate who had claimed Gray was trying to hurt himself didn't say that either, he claims his statement has been taken out of context. Plus apparently it is obligatory protocol to seatbelt in a suspect in the van, which wasn't done at all. Had he been seatbelted in, none of this would have happened (at least if what we know is true in full).

    It's about time that we start holding the police responsible for their actions and to exert some control against government force.

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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    No one is neutering the Police- they have regs and laws that apply.
    Wrong.

    The Mayor's decision to give the rioters " room to destroy " is just that.

    After Ferguson, and after this rush to prosecute and with the Lefts attention to playing up this narrative for purely Political purposes every inner city area is now one allegation away from unrest and rioting.

    Cops see that they're being thrown under the Bus and its these neighborhoods that pay the price as violence, crime and a lack of iInvestment perpetuate poverty.

    I don't think you people have any idea what you're doing.

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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Wrong.

    The Mayor's decision to give the rioters " room to destroy " is just that.

    After Ferguson, and after this rush to prosecute and with the Lefts attention to playing up this narrative for purely Political purposes every inner city area is now one allegation away from unrest and rioting.

    Cops see that they're being thrown under the Bus and its these neighborhoods that pay the price as violence, crime and a lack of iInvestment perpetuate poverty.

    I don't think you people have any idea what you're doing.
    Mayor should have acted earlier- I agree.
    Rush to judgment with the charges, perhaps?

    How long does it normally take for a civilian to be charged?

    Six Baltimore Police Officers Charged in Freddie Gray Death - WSJ


    The prosecutor said Mr. Gray was fatally injured while riding in the back of the police van, rather than when he was initially subdued by police, addressing a mystery that has gripped the public for weeks. Cellphone video taken after the arrest appeared to show Mr. Gray screaming and dragging his legs before he was put in the van.

    By the time the van reached the Western District police station about 45 minutes after his apprehension, she said, Mr. Gray wasn’t breathing and had gone into cardiac arrest. He fell into a coma and died on April 19. A family lawyer has said his spine was nearly severed at his neck.
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You are playing a ridiculous game and going in circles.
    What was pointed out was that the claim was wrong and why it was wrong.
    They had probable cause.
    Every aspect of the encounter has been investigated and it was determined that they did not.
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    Re: City State’s Attorney Says Freddie Gray’s Arrest Illegal, Charges Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Every aspect of the encounter has been investigated and it was determined that they did not.
    That is your assumption.
    What isn't an assumption is that a spring loaded knife was found. And a belief that the knife violated the cited City Code is probable cause for arrest.
    What also isn't an assumption is that she said it didn't violate Maryland law while totally ignoring that it was a City Code that was Cited as being broken.


    And again, I directed you to review the the presentation at Legal Insurrection. There was probable cause.
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