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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Why must you always phrase your counter arguments by questioning someone's intelligence, i.e, "if you do not understand..."? I find that to be most insulting and I'm sure I'm not the only one. You'd be better off (and sound far less like a pompous ass) if instead you said, "if you disagree...". A little politeness and common courtesy goes a long way.
    I do not always phrase my counter arguments in such a fashion. Only for those who are ignoring what was said or have clearly shown they do not understand.
    Your comments across the forum (in our interaction) repeatedly fall into that category because they show a clear lack of concentration (failing to pay attention) on what has been said. Your last comment just made just exemplifies this again.

    As for you thinking it questions your intelligence? An inability to focus on what you are reading has naught to do intelligence. I would suggest paying closer attention so you don't continue making that same mistake. But for some reason I doubt you will.


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    EDIT: Interesting...your opening reply, "Not all of them" referring to the head banging. So, there is some slight concession from you here. Very good. There's hope for you yet.

    And here we have again a response that is indicative of the person not paying attention to what was said.

    I did not say (Not all of them), I clearly said, "No to all of them". There is a difference in meaning between those two, and you failed to get it because you did not pay attention and instead obviously read what you wanted to read. Again, this is all on you.
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

    I'm just going to say "duly noted" and leave it at that.
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'm just going to say "duly noted" and leave it at that.
    Good luck. Excon has this disease where he cries himself to sleep every night he doesn't get the last word.
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

    Can we close the stable door on this thoroughly tenderised horseflesh?
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Can we close the stable door on this thoroughly tenderised horseflesh?
    You'll need to talk to the mods about that, but I'm inclined to agree. The discussion's come full-circle with no new revelations and everyone essentially repeating their firmly held position. Lock 'er down until this case comes to trial.
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    Excon has this disease where he cries himself to sleep every night he doesn't get the last word.
    You are only speaking of yourself.





    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    The discussion's come full-circle with no new revelations
    Again, his interview supposedly being on video and how he supposedly characterized what he heard ("mad man") is new.
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Again, his interview supposedly being on video and how he supposedly characterized what he heard ("mad man") is new.
    When the alleged video is finally aired, I'll consider it. Until then, it's speculation and hearsay regardless of how things were (re)characterized absent of this alleged new evidence.
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Again, his interview supposedly being on video and how he supposedly characterized what he heard ("mad man") is new.
    When the alleged video is finally aired, I'll consider it.

    Oy vey! Not the point at all.
    You said there was nothing "New", which is a patently false statement.

    Again.
    His interview supposedly having been videoed is "New" information.
    His characterization of what Freddie's actions sounded like, a "mad man", is also "New".


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Until then, it's speculation and hearsay regardless of how things were (re)characterized absent of this alleged new evidence.

    While this new information being reported is hearsay, it is not "speculation".
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    While this new information being reported is hearsay, it is not "speculation".
    hear·say
    ˈhirˌsā/
    noun
    information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor.

    Doh! sums it up nicely.

    How are you not in a permanent state of embarrassment, stepping in it as often as you do?
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Oy vey! Not the point at all.
    You said there was nothing "New", which is a patently false statement.


    Excon,

    What's new about reporting that a video may or may not exist? All we have here is speculation and nothing more. The something new would be confirmation not only that such a video does exist BUT that someone with a high degree of credibility substantiating that the formerly undisclosed information is highly relevant to this case. Until that happens, there's nothing new to see here.

    Again.
    His interview supposedly having been videoed is "New" information.
    His characterization of what Freddie's actions sounded like, a "mad man", is also "New".

    Key word: supposedly...

    Until supposedly turns to actual, there's nothing new here except speculation.

    While this new information being reported is hearsay, it is not "speculation".
    It is speculation because those purporting to have seen a video where an ear-witness claims that Gray sounded like a "mad man", no one has yet to come forward airing the alleged video. However, if such a video does exist we'll all know about it soon enough...at trial.
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