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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document says

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo​ View Post
    An affidavit written by a police officer was referenced.

    Yeah, you must not know what a quote is. Let me help you.

    A reference: Earlier today, Excon said he provided a quote, although none was found.

    A quote: Earlier today, Excon said, "His words were quoted", in reference to Donta Allen. He said this several times, repeating "His words were quoted" over and over again.

    Do you see the difference? One is a reference, and one is a direct quote.

    You have stated several times that Allen was quoted. This quote has not been provided anywhere. A really good way to make me eat some crow would be to provide said quote.

    Until then, keep showing everyone that you are wrong. This is entertaining for me.
    And around and round we go. Yay!

    You clearly do not know what you are talking about again.

    Again.
    His words were quoted.
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document says

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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document says

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    An affidavit written by a police officer was referenced.

    Yeah, you must not know what a quote is. Let me help you.

    A reference: Earlier today, Excon said he provided a quote, although none was found.

    A quote: Earlier today, Excon said, "His words were quoted", in reference to Donta Allen. He said this several times, repeating "His words were quoted" over and over again.

    Do you see the difference? One is a reference, and one is a direct quote.

    You have stated several times that Allen was quoted. This quote has not been provided anywhere. A really good way to make me eat some crow would be to provide said quote.

    Until then, keep showing everyone that you are wrong. This is entertaining for me.
    There is no "quote" so don't expect that or honest intentions.
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document says

    BALTIMORE — A prisoner sharing a police transport van with Freddie Gray told investigators that he could hear Gray “banging against the walls” of the vehicle and believed that he “was intentionally trying to injure himself,” according to a police document obtained by The Washington Post.

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    Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was



    Maybe folks were to quick to blame police.
    Or maybe he just fell down when the police stuffed him into the back of the van without securing him? Because what this prisoner is saying is even worse than hearsay, because he is just assuming his way through this. He did not see what happened he just heard him slamming into the walls, how on earth could he say he was doing this intentionally to "injure himself". That is just stupid and has little or no evidence value IMHO.
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document says

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    There is no "quote" so don't expect that or honest intentions.
    I know that. You know that. Excon knows that. Everyone knows that. I do find it entertaining to watch someone struggle so hard though, especially since the concepts are so simple.
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document says

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And around and round we go. Yay!

    You clearly do not know what you are talking about again.

    Again.
    His words were quoted.
    Are you able to provide the quote of Allen's or not? And by what forum sorcery are your quotes of me not winding up in my notifications?
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    There is no "quote" so don't expect that or honest intentions.
    The only thing dishonest is saying there is no quote.





    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Or maybe he just fell down when the police stuffed him into the back of the van without securing him?
    When? No. It happened after he was able to turn around and hit himself on the rear of the van.
    Neither was the other person seat-belted and he had no injury. Smooth ride.


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Because what this prisoner is saying is even worse than hearsay, because he is just assuming his way through this.
    No it is not hearsay.
    He can say what something sounded like to him.
    What we haven't been given is the reason he thought that or is he was even asked why he thought that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    He did not see what happened he just heard him slamming into the walls, how on earth could he say he was doing this intentionally to "injure himself".
    It is possible.
    Why would you think a person who is cuffed with his hands behind his back with no room to actually kick (unless laying on their side on the bench) would be banging the only part of his body available for banging on a smooth ride? There are only a few explanations possible and they are all deliberate acts.


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    That is just stupid and has little or no evidence value IMHO.
    Which of course is where you are wrong.





    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo​ View Post
    I know that. You know that. Excon knows that. Everyone knows that. I do find it entertaining to watch someone struggle so hard though, especially since the concepts are so simple.
    You are the only one struggling here with false assertions over and over again.
    You were directed to the quotes. They are there and they are of his words.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo​ View Post
    Are you able to provide the quote of Allen's or not?
    The quotes was previously provided and you were directed to it.
    Avail yourself of them.
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You are the only one struggling here with false assertions over and over again.
    You were directed to the quotes. They are there and they are of his words.


    The quotes was previously provided and you were directed to it.
    Avail yourself of them.
    So you're going to keep going with the non-quote quote nonsense.

    Look, it would be super easy to shut me up here. All you have to do is provide Allen's own words (not a cop's words, but Allen's) that say he thinks Gray was trying to hurt himself.

    You must either really like me and want to see more of me around, or you must like showing people that you simply don't care for definitions as the dictionary gives them.

    And seriously, why do your quotes (and only your quotes) not notify me? What are you doing to make that happen? And why would you want that to happen?
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo​ View Post
    So you're going to keep going with the non-quote quote nonsense.

    Look, it would be super easy to shut me up here. All you have to do is provide Allen's own words (not a cop's words, but Allen's) that say he thinks Gray was trying to hurt himself.

    You must either really like me and want to see more of me around, or you must like showing people that you simply don't care for definitions as the dictionary gives them.
    Your failure to recognize he was quoted is your failure, not mine.
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    Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Your failure to recognize he was quoted is your failure, not mine.
    Where was he quoted?

    And again, why are your quotes the only ones that don't notify me? What are you doing? And why would you not want to notify people when you quote them?
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