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    re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I do not believe it is possible to break your own neck by slamming your head against a wall nor collapsing your own throat when handcuffed.

    There are millions of dollars, prosecutions of police, and probably lost higher-up jobs, plus riots to deal with. In short, I do not believe he broke his own neck and collapsed his own throat.

    But you tell me how a handcuffed person in the immediately presence of police could break his own neck and collapse his own throat if you want to believe that. It's as believable as claiming someone shot themselves in the back of the head 3 times. I think making this explanation is just going to piss people off even more.

    It is interesting to see how quickly two members who claim people who are arrested lie, but absolutely believe this prisoner as if the edict from God himself.
    You also couldnt believe someone can be injured or killed by a falling bullet fired straight up and coming back down. I had to show you that was possible too.

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    re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    From the corporate media?
    No, released by the corporate media as news but from the investigation and used in an application for a search warrant.

    And trying to cast aspersion on it because it was released by the "corporate media" is folly.
    Who else do you think would be putting into the media? The jelly man?


    Fact is they are reporting on the information they received.
    Leaked by the cops 10 days after. Who got their info from a guy they had under arrest. Wonder what kinda deal that guy got. People don't just speak up for the cops in that area. If anything the guy would have said the opposite. Unless he got something or the cops twisted his arm.
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    re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384]

    Quote Originally Posted by kjwins View Post
    Leaked by the cops 10 days after. Who got their info from a guy they had under arrest. Wonder what kinda deal that guy got. People don't just speak up for the cops in that area. If anything the guy would have said the opposite. Unless he got something or the cops twisted his arm.
    Now you are absurdly assuming some sort of deal instead of results from investigation.

    The number of days are also meaningless.
    There is an ongoing investigation. Why would that information be released prior to the finish (except by leak) of that investigation?
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    re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Now you are absurdly assuming some sort of deal instead of results from investigation.

    The number of days are also meaningless.
    There is an ongoing investigation. Why would that information be released prior to the finish (except by leak) of that investigation?
    You're absurdly assuming they are not.

    Sounds real fishy, almost like they want people to riot. People in those neighborhoods don't like or trust the cops. No way this guy just helps them out, & gets them off the hook, if it happened or not.

    If you give me 10k. I will pay you back next week. Trust Me.
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    re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384]

    Quote Originally Posted by kjwins View Post
    You're absurdly assuming they are not.
    Wrong. You are engaged in absurdity.
    Without evidence to suggest otherwise, it is the only logical assumption that can be made.


    Quote Originally Posted by kjwins View Post
    Sounds real fishy, almost like they want people to riot.
    Only to those with convoluted thoughts.
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    re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Wrong. You are engaged in absurdity.
    Without evidence to suggest otherwise, it is the only logical assumption that can be made.


    Only to those with convoluted thoughts.
    Am I now, consider the source. Cops stick together, & protect one another. They are investigating themselves, & this police force has a history of being brutal. They payed out 6 mil last year for this kinda ****.

    Believe who want, I think you picked sides before you even knew this.
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    re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384]

    Quote Originally Posted by kjwins View Post
    Am I now, consider the source. Cops stick together, & protect one another. They are investigating themselves, & this police force has a history of being brutal. They payed out 6 mil last year for this kinda ****.

    Believe who want, I think you picked sides before you even knew this.
    iLOL

    That is your own biases speaking.
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    re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    iLOL

    That is your own biases speaking.
    OK my friend, I like to call it common sense.
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    re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384]

    Quote Originally Posted by kjwins View Post
    OK my friend, I like to call it common sense.

    Common sense does not include making absurd assumptions like you did.
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    re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document says

    BALTIMORE — A prisoner sharing a police transport van with Freddie Gray told investigators that he could hear Gray “banging against the walls” of the vehicle and believed that he “was intentionally trying to injure himself,” according to a police document obtained by The Washington Post.

    [...]

    Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was



    Maybe folks were to quick to blame police.
    Yep, another "pos criminal" is suddenly very credible, lol.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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