I mean by the release of this testimony that the prisoner heard Gray banging against the van wall, the immediate assumption is that he managed to sever his own neck. This is particularly questionable when there is a definite record of spinal cord injuries done by this particular police force. I would argue that it's less likely that he severed his own neck in such an extraordinary way when there is a record like that that is publicly known.What do you mean asking whether or not people here question the prisoners testimony?????
He further stated, that a violent enough seizure can in fact break your own neck.
What if Gray was having a violent seizure in the back of the police van?
Anyway, so far this appears to be an anonymous source, and probably should be treated as such, but still, plausible at least.
So the police are investigating, and turning the results over to the prosecutor, who'll likely call for a Grand Jury, or, if she's smart, she'll turn the entire thing over to the state attorney general (she's been in office a mere 100 days, and I don't think stems from the legal or LE communities).
Yeah, I can see the repeat here. The GD doesn't find anything to charge the cops with, and there'll be even more rioting. Hopefully, this time the mayor will call in the National Guard before these results are made public, to preempt any additional rioting before is even starts. 'Space to destroy' indeed.
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But that was a civil war ! Hardly comparable
How so ?There simply is no way to tease out the details. Comparing police shootings to the American data is the only reliable approach.
The only other country in the United Kingdom for which we found hard numbers was Northern Ireland. Between April 2008 and September 2014, roughly a six-year period, members of the Police Force of Northern Ireland discharged their weapons nine times. However, there is no data on whether any deaths resulted.
During the times of "The Troubles" from 1968 to about 2000 when separatists, generally Catholics, and unionists, generally Protestants, battled over whether Northern Ireland should break away or remain part of the United Kingdom, there were over 3,000 deaths. Some of those were at the hands of the police.
Groups advocating what exactly ?Again, you are welcome to present flawed data from advocacy groups anxious to manipulate data and present flawed information, but don't expect them to be taken as anything other than activist propaganda.
Do you or do you not understand that we have different laws that those other nations?
One incidence means nothing to your overall claim.
Especially as that man was aggressively charging the and did not follow the Officers commands.
So if you want to discuss that case, start the thread. It is irrelevant here.
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Freddie Gray death: New narratives emerge - CNN.com
Where's that on your time line?Deputy Commissioner Kevin Davis also revealed for the first time that there was an additional stop made between the time Gray was placed in the transport van and when he arrived at the police department's Western District building.
From the 24th.
[/QUOTE]Batts said another man who was in the van during the tail end of Gray's ride told investigators that Gray was "was still moving around, that he was kicking and making noises" up until the van arrived at the station. Batts said the man also said the driver did not speed, make sudden stops of "drive erratically."
Freddie Gray death: Baltimore police prisoner transport under scrutiny - World - CBC News
There are reports that the dude, who could not see Gray, was attempting to hurt himself, and your post which says that he was kicking and making noise till the arrived at the precinct.
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