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    Re: 'Out-of-control family affair': Experts question Clinton Foundation's true charit

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Sure. I'll get right on that, after all the SuperPACs stop hiding the identity of their donors. (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/11/us...elections.html)

    Oh, and as soon as Scott Walker can prove that he didn't abuse the election laws which bar collaboration between a candidate and SuperPACs.


    Edit: I guess it didn't take much work after all. The CGEP claims that they're subject to the laws of British Columbia, which (arguably) require permission before disclosing donor's names. They are probably taking an extreme stance. My point remains, though -- namely everyone is currently relying heavily on secret cash.
    Canada claims that no such law prevents these from being released.

    This is the most corrupt family that ever held the office. You can throw out all the trumped-up moral equivalencies you want, but nothing compares to this mafia-like duo of power freaks.

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    Re: 'Out-of-control family affair': Experts question Clinton Foundation's true charit

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Sure. I'll get right on that, after all the SuperPACs stop hiding the identity of their donors. (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/11/us...elections.html)

    Oh, and as soon as Scott Walker can prove that he didn't abuse the election laws which bar collaboration between a candidate and SuperPACs.
    That's the real point here.

    Yes, the Clinton's are corrupt. But if we want to vote for a candidate that's not been corrupted by money in 2016, we'll have to choose whichever bunch of whackos is way down ballot and who collectively won't get 5% of the vote. What's worse is the same thing will be true for any Senate candidate in a competitive race who might have $10 or $20 million dropped in the race by c4s and the like, from secret donors, no matter the party.

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    Re: 'Out-of-control family affair': Experts question Clinton Foundation's true charit

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Canada claims that no such law prevents these from being released.
    There are no Canadian federal laws to that effect. The Foundation is in British Columbia, which has more restrictive privacy laws. They are very likely still pushing it, but it sounds fairly typical.


    This is the most corrupt family that ever held the office.
    lol

    Yes, much more corrupt than Nixon, who hired aides to break into the offices of political opponents, and played so fast and loose with campaign cash (remember CREEP?) that it sparked off a wave of campaign funding laws; more corrupt than Ulysses S Grant, whose administration fostered such endemic corruption it threatened the entire nation.

    No, wait, I lied. Nixon and Grant were certainly far more corrupt than the Clintons. So were a few others, I'm sure.


    You can throw out all the trumped-up moral equivalencies you want, but nothing compares to this mafia-like duo of power freaks.
    lol

    Sorry dude, but "secret cash = secret cash." If you're going to blast Hillary for this (which is fine actually), then you ought to be in a righteous indignation about EVERY candidate in EVERY election which has taken or benefitted from anonymous donations. (Exceptions can be made for anyone who makes a good-faith effort to close the SuperPAC loopholes or enact campaign finance reform, such as John McCain.)

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    Re: 'Out-of-control family affair': Experts question Clinton Foundation's true charit

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    Bull****.
    Good thing you put so much thought into that rebuttal, otherwise it might have been laughably incomplete...
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    Re: 'Out-of-control family affair': Experts question Clinton Foundation's true charit

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    'Out-of-control family affair': Experts question Clinton Foundation's true charitable spending | Fox News



    Okay, let's give the benefit of the doubt and say 30% went to real charity, WTF are they doing with the other 70%? Watch the wagons circle.
    It is the road map to how Obama is going to fund all his exotic golf vacations all across the world after he can no longer change it to the tax payers.
    The Gruber-crat is strong in this one!

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    Re: 'Out-of-control family affair': Experts question Clinton Foundation's true charit

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    'Out-of-control family affair': Experts question Clinton Foundation's true charitable spending | Fox News



    Okay, let's give the benefit of the doubt and say 30% went to real charity, WTF are they doing with the other 70%? Watch the wagons circle.
    What would democrats expect from a one percenter? But she's looking out for the little people!
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    Re: 'Out-of-control family affair': Experts question Clinton Foundation's true charit

    Them pantsuits don't pay for themselves.
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    Re: 'Out-of-control family affair': Experts question Clinton Foundation's true charit

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Well if Rush Limbaugh is saying it, it must be, well...

    The Clinton Foundation has an unusual structure, in that it does a lot of the work with its own staffers. The travel and salary costs are going largely to charitable works. What conservatives are decrying as "excess spending" uses criteria that doesn't apply to the Clinton Foundation.

    It sounds like the 88% figure is inflated, but not by an excessive amount. It's also difficult for charity watchdogs like Charity Navigator to rate, because it works so differently from most charities.

    But hey, don't let something like nuance get in the way of a good slam, amirite?

    Rush Limbaugh says Clinton Foundation spends just 15 percent on charity, 85 percent on overhead | PunditFact
    Did you even look at the linked documents in the article???? No of course not, get your head out of the sand!
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    Re: 'Out-of-control family affair': Experts question Clinton Foundation's true charit

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Good thing you put so much thought into that rebuttal, otherwise it might have been laughably incomplete...
    I gave obvious bull hockey all the thought that it deserved.

    Yeah, the Clintons are all special. The rules don't apply to them. They even have special rules for how their fund runs.

    You are foisting on us the most openly corrupt presidential candidate that this nation has ever seen. I really don't know how you can live with yourselves.

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    Re: 'Out-of-control family affair': Experts question Clinton Foundation's true charit

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I gave obvious bull hockey all the thought that it deserved.

    Yeah, the Clintons are all special. The rules don't apply to them. They even have special rules for how their fund runs.

    You are foisting on us the most openly corrupt presidential candidate that this nation has ever seen. I really don't know how you can live with yourselves.
    Which rules about how they spend their money did they break?
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