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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    And now, in your usual way, you accuse me of not knowing what I am writing? I don't have time for your smug BS.

    Have a nice day. I'll just interact with people here who can think independently.
    Nobody has accused you of not knowing what you're writing. I am question at your crystal ball incursion into the mind of Obama. If you can't answer the questions, just say so. No need to get angry because your analysis of his words simply don't stand up to scrutiny.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Nobody has accused you of not knowing what you're writing. I am question at your crystal ball incursion into the mind of Obama. If you can't answer the questions, just say so. No need to get angry because your analysis of his words simply don't stand up to scrutiny.
    I've given you something you couldn't, or wouldn't do. That is, the President in his own words.

    I've given you the reasoning, and I've given you examples.

    You've done nothing similar other than to finally write:

    "I don't think anyone here - not even you - is sure what your problem with his words are. " Which is to claim I don't know what I'm writing about, which you have stated nobody here is doing.

    You're all over the place on this Hatuey. You disqualified yourself from your own thread by citing standards you have failed to live up to. You have demonstrated you can't think independently by refusing to read the President in his own words. Finally, you've stated you haven't done something, when your own words convict you.

    Why should I engage with you any further Hatuey?
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I've given you something you couldn't, or wouldn't do. That is, the President in his own words.
    Yep, I posted them. You posted parts of it that you disagreed with. I asked you what exactly did you disagree with?

    I've given you the reasoning, and I've given you examples.
    Nope, you ranted about what he was really saying in his mind. That's hardly a reasoning or an example. It's simply a rant.

    You've done nothing similar other than to finally write:

    "I don't think anyone here - not even you - is sure what your problem with his words are. " Which is to claim I don't know what I'm writing about, which you have stated nobody here is doing.

    You're all over the place on this Hatuey. You disqualified yourself from your own thread by citing standards you have failed to live up to. You have demonstrated you can't think independently by refusing to read the President in his own words. Finally, you've stated you haven't done something, when your own words convict you.

    Why should I engage with you any further Hatuey?
    You're trying too hard Ocean. I did in fact post his words. What I discussed was the analysis and talking points parroted by Travis and handed out by The Gateway Pundit. Claiming that I didn't live to a standard that you made up on the fly is nonsense and just makes you look desperate to once again catch somebody on something. I'm pretty sure I addressed that tactic when Travis tried it. Now, what exactly do you have a problem with? Obama pointing out that there are underlying issues but that they don't justify the rioting and looting?
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yep, I posted them. You posted parts of it that you disagreed with. I asked you what exactly did you disagree with?



    Nope, you ranted about what he was really saying in his mind. That's hardly a reasoning or an example. It's simply a rant.



    You're trying too hard Ocean. I did in fact post his words. What I discussed was the analysis and talking points parroted by Travis and handed out by The Gateway Pundit. Claiming that I didn't live to a standard that you made up on the fly is nonsense and just makes you look desperate to once again catch somebody on something. I'm pretty sure I addressed that tactic when Travis tried it. Now, what exactly do you have a problem with? Obama pointing out that there are underlying issues but that they don't justify the rioting and looting?
    Whatever Hatuey. You're entitled to your opinion. I'll stick to mine, it's based on facts, and independent thinking.

    Have a nice day.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

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    Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore - CNNPolitics.com



    Thought this was interesting. I guess it takes the wind out of the 'tacit approval' crowd.
    There must be some excuse as to why so few of these crimes, which were committed in front of press cameras and while the police are present and watching, resulted in arrests. Baltimore is a joke when it comes to law enforcement. How their moronic mayor or police chief were surprised by the rioting, looting and burning is beyond belief when the press seemed to have seen it coming and were ready and waiting for the scoop. It seems that, like Ferguson, Baltimore places priority on protecting government property and leaves the general public to fend for themselves when the **** hits the fan.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Whatever Hatuey. You're entitled to your opinion. I'll stick to mine, it's based on facts, and independent thinking.

    Have a nice day.
    Lol, your opinion? I don't care about your opinion. I questioned your analysis of his words and asked you to answer simple questions. I also dismissed The Gateway Pundit's analysis for being absolutely stupid. You seem to be unable to answer simple questions, so I can only assume that your analysis is based on the same 'facts' and 'independent thinking' as theirs.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Whatever Hatuey. You're entitled to your opinion. I'll stick to mine, it's based on facts, and independent thinking.

    Have a nice day.
    Your "opinion" is based on three words and three words only: Must. Blame. Obama.

    For everything. Every time.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    There must be some excuse as to why so few of these crimes, which were committed in front of press cameras and while the police are present and watching, resulted in arrests. Baltimore is a joke when it comes to law enforcement. How their moronic mayor or police chief were surprised by the rioting, looting and burning is beyond belief when the press seemed to have seen it coming and were ready and waiting for the scoop. It seems that, like Ferguson, Baltimore places priority on protecting government property and leaves the general public to fend for themselves when the **** hits the fan.
    The courts have already ruled that police are under absolutely no obligation to protect civilians. Police officers from DC (ironic how close it is to Baltimore) went to court and actually argued that they didn't have to protect you absent a "special relationship" between you and them. They won. Why you think that such a ruling wouldn't extend to the general public's property is kind of interesting.

    As far as the media goes, the media wasn't surprised because everyone except for Obama, white people on DP, and the suburbs seems to believe that his issue hasn't been boiling for decades. Once again, I find that was Obama's mistake in the statement. BPD has a long history of police brutality. This recent incident just exposed to that for the world to see and made discussion unavoidable.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol, your opinion? I don't care about your opinion. I questioned your analysis of his words and asked you to answer simple questions. I also dismissed The Gateway Pundit's analysis for being absolutely stupid. You seem to be unable to answer simple questions, so I can only assume that your analysis is based on the same 'facts' and 'independent thinking' as theirs.
    LOL. I don't care about your opinion of my analysis. I don't care about the Gateway Pundit's take. Haven't mentioned it once. I simply provided the exact words of the President of the United states taken from a transcript of his comments.

    I've given you the words, and other examples used in similar fashion. You have refuted none of those examples.

    Your inability to think independently and recognize the facts is of no concern to me. If you chose to think someone prefacing his comments with what he perceives people will think of them excuses away what is said, that's for you to live with.

    Allow me to finish by writing this. In the spirit of the President, and in the spirit of your take on prefacing comments, allow me to write that I'm not trying to be mean, or dismissive, but you're an ignorant moron Hatuey.

    Once again, have a nice day my friend. I must really be off.
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