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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Actually, since you've violated your own standards, you know the independent thinking versus being told what to think thing, I believe you are the one with an understanding that is not on par with what the President has said.

    If he wasn't giving tacit approval with his long diatribe about the "community", why did he preface it by stating "without making any excuses for criminal activities that take place in these communities"? That's like saying, I'm not trying to be mean, but you're a wart infested scumbag. See, that really doesn't work.

    Perhaps you could work on your independent thinking skills. They aren't present in this thread.
    exactly... a real leader would say

    " we are coutnry of laws, these laws are sacred, if you riot, commit arson or any crime period you will be arrested and prosecuted , Baltimore is investigating this case properly, I give my condolences to the family and they will have their day in court"

    But of course Obama did not do that.. he went into his "race hustler mode for votes"

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What baiting and gloating crowd? People engage in looting and rioting when opportunity arises. Sure, it's an organized effort, but I doubt they're watching CNN to hear what Obama said and whether he's approving their actions. They're simply not. They engage in looting and rioting because there are literally 1000s of protesters around, and they can simply "blend with the crowd" if the police show up.
    I wasn't referring to the rioters in Baltimore but, rather, to some of those posting on this thread.

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I guess it is true you don't understand what the Presidents words are approving.

    In the final paragraph I posted from the transcript of his comments, the President knew he was giving an excuse for the criminal activity that has occurred over and over in these ginned up situations. That's why he prefaced his comment about the state of these impoverished communities.

    Liberals, and now Progressives, have been spouting this drivel for decades. I remember the Watts riots, and the King riots and all the others that have gone on across the nation. The same platitudes and excuses are offered. And they mean SQUAT. How many billions and by now trillions have been spent? And the same excuses are made. It's astounding to me these poor souls haven't figured out yet that they are being played for fools by politician like President Obama.

    How about the President add a few words about his illegal alien plan that's going to do wonderful things to these impoverished communities? No, the President said, riot on, I understand. Besides, its not unfeasible to consider he thinks these riots keeps them occupied while he manipulates another minority for political gain.

    These facts are about as vivid and plain as they could be.
    Crystal ball arguments into the mind of an individual seldom work out. Obama said there was no excuse for the rioting or looting. How you interpret that to mean that he approved of the riot and looting is mind blogging.

    Do you have a problem with Obama pointing out that these communities regularly deal with police brutality?
    Do you have a problem with Obama saying that that drugs are a problem in the black community?
    Do you have a problem with Obama saying that simply sending police will not solve the issue?

    I don't think anyone here - not even you - is sure what your problems with his words are. Is it that he discussed the underlying issues behind a lot of these protests? Is that what bothers you?
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That is great that he is saying all that.But its the other things he says that basically inflame people to riot and loot.
    Oh, STOP IT.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're trying too hard to use a crystal ball argument. Obama said that he wasn't giving approval to the rioting, and then went on to discuss the underlying issues justifying a lot of the protesting going on. Do you believe people aren't justified in protesting the dozens of cases of police brutality in Baltimore? Do you believe that being justified in protesting the Baltimore police department's history of brutality gives on a permit to engage in brutality? I don't think you know what your problem is. Is it that Obama said violence isn't justified, but people are justified in protesting the current situation in Baltimore?
    You're using blinders in an attempt to believe what you want to believe.

    The only reason anyone prefaces a statement is because they believe what they are going to say, but don't want to be called out for it. Everyone does it.

    My example was perfect. "Not trying to excuse, but", "don't mean to put you down, but", "not trying to mean, but", "without making any excuses.......let me make some excuses". It's clear as crystal, to those who can think independently.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I guess it is true you don't understand what the Presidents words are approving.

    In the final paragraph I posted from the transcript of his comments, the President knew he was giving an excuse for the criminal activity that has occurred over and over in these ginned up situations. That's why he prefaced his comment about the state of these impoverished communities.

    Liberals, and now Progressives, have been spouting this drivel for decades. I remember the Watts riots, and the King riots and all the others that have gone on across the nation. The same platitudes and excuses are offered. And they mean SQUAT. How many billions and by now trillions have been spent? And the same excuses are made. It's astounding to me these poor souls haven't figured out yet that they are being played for fools by politician like President Obama.

    How about the President add a few words about his illegal alien plan that's going to do wonderful things to these impoverished communities? No, the President said, riot on, I understand. Besides, its not unfeasible to consider he thinks these riots keeps them occupied while he manipulates another minority for political gain.

    These facts are about as vivid and plain as they could be.
    If that's your interpretation of the President's words, I'm curious to know what ****ing planet you live on.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Crystal ball arguments into the mind of an individual seldom work out. Obama said there was no excuse for the rioting or looting. How you interpret that to mean that he approved of the riot and looting is mind blogging.

    Do you have a problem with Obama pointing out that these communities regularly deal with police brutality?
    Do you have a problem with Obama saying that that drugs are a problem in the black community?
    Do you have a problem with Obama saying that simply sending police will not solve the issue?

    I don't think anyone here - not even you - is sure what your problem with his words are. Is it that he discussed the underlying issues behind a lot of these protests? Is that what bothers you?
    And now, in your usual way, you accuse me of not knowing what I am writing? I don't have time for your smug BS.

    Have a nice day. I'll just interact with people here who can think independently.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    If that's your interpretation of the President's words, I'm curious to know what ****ing planet you live on.
    Never on yours Kobie. To spacy there. I require more intellectual honesty than the one you call home.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I wasn't referring to the rioters in Baltimore but, rather, to some of those posting on this thread.
    Oh, I don't know. I personally find it good that Obama specifically condemned the looting and rioting. It will shut up a lot of people who said he was approving of it by not speaking on it. It's a moronic argument to say the least. It's absolute partisan hackery at its worst. However, now we have a new round of condemnation, where what he was really saying is that cops are thugs; as well as the argument that he was supportive of rioting by saying that there are legitimate issues behind the protesting. That's simply inconsistent with his statements or even common sense. If that made sense most scholars who study social conflict would be guilty of supporting genocides if they tried to examine these issues and the social problems behind them.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    enjoy the subject I did and thank you to those I support...Ocean..thank you bro..your posts are excellent and I will be supporting my friends...
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