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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore - CNNPolitics.com



    Thought this was interesting. I guess it takes the wind out of the 'tacit approval' crowd.
    Not out of the baiting or gloating crowd, though.

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Your understanding of this issue doesn't seem to be on part with what you're citing. He's saying that:

    1. Parents are worried, and so are community leaders - True.
    2. People in poor communities, where drugs run rampart, and there is no opportunity, are more likely to be criminals - True.
    3. Sending police is not going to solve the underlying issues behind these protests - True.

    All of these aren't being politicized. They're already political and have been for the better part of the 20th century. But I'm not sure what you seem to have a problem with. Are you saying that nothing that Obama is saying?
    Actually, since you've violated your own standards, you know the independent thinking versus being told what to think thing, I believe you are the one with an understanding that is not on par with what the President has said.

    If he wasn't giving tacit approval with his long diatribe about the "community", why did he preface it by stating "without making any excuses for criminal activities that take place in these communities"? That's like saying, I'm not trying to be mean, but you're a wart infested scumbag. See, that really doesn't work.

    Perhaps you could work on your independent thinking skills. They aren't present in this thread.

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Not out of the baiting or gloating crowd, though.
    What baiting and gloating crowd? People engage in looting and rioting when opportunity arises. Sure, it's an organized effort, but I doubt they're watching CNN to hear what Obama said and whether he's approving their actions. They're simply not. They engage in looting and rioting because there are literally 1000s of protesters around, and they can simply "blend with the crowd" if the police show up.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Good on him.

    But the question does remain as to why he felt the need to send three representatives to the funeral.
    thats a great question.. why 3 reps? and none for Thatcher?

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What baiting and gloating crowd? People engage in looting and rioting when opportunity arises. Sure, it's an organized effort, but I doubt they're watching CNN to hear what Obama said and whether he's approving their actions. They're simply not. They engage in looting and rioting because there are literally 1000s of protesters around, and they can simply "blend with the crowd" if the police show up.
    hahhaha,...so now you admit you bought the lie...

    priceless...the desperation of the Obama voter

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Actually, since you've violated your own standards, you know the independent thinking versus being told what to think thing, I believe you are the one with an understanding that is not on par with what the President has said.

    If he wasn't giving tacit approval with his long diatribe about the "community", why did he preface it by stating "without making any excuses for criminal activities that take place in these communities"? That's like saying, I'm not trying to be mean, but you're a wart infested scumbag. See, that really doesn't work.

    Perhaps you could work on your independent thinking skills. They aren't present in this thread.

    you nailed it.. thank you for the outstanding post..

    and CNN carried the water of a biased cropped article to the non informed like Hautay...

    You can almost feel the desperation at CNN when Obama stoked the flames to quickly try to sell the lie that our ears were wrong
    Last edited by Travis007; 04-28-15 at 04:55 PM.

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Actually, since you've violated your own standards, you know the independent thinking versus being told what to think thing, I believe you are the one with an understanding that is not on par with what the President has said.

    If he wasn't giving tacit approval with his long diatribe about the "community", why did he preface it by stating "without making any excuses for criminal activities that take place in these communities"? That's like saying, I'm not trying to be mean, but you're a wart infested scumbag. See, that really doesn't work.

    Perhaps you could work on your independent thinking skills. They aren't present in this thread.
    You're trying too hard to use a crystal ball argument. Obama said that he wasn't giving approval to the rioting, and then went on to discuss the underlying issues justifying a lot of the protesting going on. Do you believe people aren't justified in protesting the dozens of cases of police brutality in Baltimore? Do you believe that being justified in protesting the Baltimore police department's history of brutality gives on a permit to engage in brutality? I don't think you know what your problem is. Is it that Obama said violence isn't justified, but people are justified in protesting the current situation in Baltimore?
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're wrong. People aren't 'inflamed' to riot and loot because someone points out that police brutality is an issue and violence isn't acceptable. They already know violence is an issue and violence is unacceptable. Rioting and looting are opportunistic, they're not based on the politics at the center of the matter.
    They do see it as justification for rioting and looting when the president gives the impression that cops are racists thugs who think they are issued blackman hunting licenses.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    They do see it as justification for rioting and looting when the president gives the impression that cops are racists thugs who think they are issued blackman hunting licenses.
    There is nothing to suggest that Obama said police officers are thugs or issuing black man hunting licenses. That's simply absurd.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    I'm not sure what message you are trying to get across here. I can't see anything incorrect in point number five from Obama. He's absolutely correct in his assessment about impoverished communities, primarily poor African-Americans, having too many instances of what appears to be police officers interacting with individuals in ways that have raised troubling questions.

    If you think focusing on just the police (i.e. body cameras, etc) is the solution and not helping out these impoverished communities then you are wrong.
    I guess it is true you don't understand what the Presidents words are approving.

    In the final paragraph I posted from the transcript of his comments, the President knew he was giving an excuse for the criminal activity that has occurred over and over in these ginned up situations. That's why he prefaced his comment about the state of these impoverished communities.

    Liberals, and now Progressives, have been spouting this drivel for decades. I remember the Watts riots, and the King riots and all the others that have gone on across the nation. The same platitudes and excuses are offered. And they mean SQUAT. How many billions and by now trillions have been spent? And the same excuses are made. It's astounding to me these poor souls haven't figured out yet that they are being played for fools by politician like President Obama.

    How about the President add a few words about his illegal alien plan that's going to do wonderful things to these impoverished communities? No, the President said, riot on, I understand. Besides, its not unfeasible to consider he thinks these riots keeps them occupied while he manipulates another minority for political gain.

    These facts are about as vivid and plain as they could be.

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