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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Who can be upset with a statement condemning the rioting, and stating that it's counter productive and undermines the community? It should be condemned, it is counterproductive, and it does undermine the community. It's a true statement.

    I dislike Obama as much as any other Status Quo Republocrat, but it's a true statement. Why has this already devolved into a partisan pissing contest?
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Travis, you are trying too hard to have an informed conversation without having the capability to do so. Please refrain from copying and pasting parts of my post to make you seem on par with me. It's embarrassing.
    again your posts are liberal lies...youre desperate ...

    CNN is a farce.. a liberal propaganda outlet..

    so lets break ti down.. Obama gave "the excuse" and CNN covered for Obama.. and you are an Obama sycophant so you try to run the jive

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's nice Travis. However, it's irrelevant to the subject at hand. May I suggest you go to a different thread if you wish to discuss the politics of Baltimore?
    nope.. you brought it up..

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    exact words.. but not all the words..

    your attempts are pathetic
    Travis, his exact words are in the video. Including the paragraph you parroted. Continuing to claim that CNN did not report on all the words just makes you look desperate to catch Obama on something.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    nope.. you brought it up..
    Oh? I discussed the politics of Baltimore? Where? Post number, please.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's pretty much my view on the matter. I don't condone the rioting or the looting, but I can definitely see how the current conditions led to it. Police departments in US cities have been getting away with killing civilians for decades. Normally, it's impossible to really make a case against a single incident because they can have as much as 10-15 years between them. However, when a single police department has paid millions within a 4 year span, and has over a 100 such incidents within that period, there is an obvious pattern. This is specially true if the city doesn't even reach the 1 million mark. I think that was Obama's mistake. Linking this to Ferguson. The situations simply aren't the same though there is ample evidence that the FPD also engaged in some of the same tactics. I guess what I am saying is that the issues should be viewed as separate but within a larger national pattern of police brutality.
    so you arfe saying Obama is a moron as he links it all together..its all the same to Obama. and we see again Obama interjecting his "verdict" thats the pattern and Obama pattern of race hustling and anti police behavior

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Who can be upset with a statement condemning the rioting, and stating that it's counter productive and undermines the community? It should be condemned, it is counterproductive, and it does undermine the community. It's a true statement.

    I dislike Obama as much as any other Status Quo Republocrat, but it's a true statement. Why has this already devolved into a partisan pissing contest?
    The problem is that it can't be point out that police brutality is an issue. It can't even be pointed out that we've seen these incidents before and they're nothing new. However, what REALLY hurt some feelings is that Obama had the audacity to refer to other issues in his speech. It's ODS at its finest.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes it is. You can deny it as much as you want, but it's still irrelevant to the issue, kind of like your parroting of talking points by the Gateway Pundit. This is a forum for people who think independently, Travis. Not people who simply copy and paste whatever they're being told to say.
    You mean like you do?

    How about what the President actually said, rather than what CNN told you he said? Perhaps you should read the Transcript of his comments, then you won't find yourself disqualifying yourself from your own OP. You know a forum for people who think independently, not just cut and paste.

    President Obama’s Comments on Baltimore Violence — Video & Transcript - Washington Wire - WSJ

    EXCERPTS:

    Point number five — and I’ve got six, because this is important. Since Ferguson, and the task force that we put together, we have seen too many instances of what appears to be police officers interacting with individuals — primarily African American, often poor — in ways that have raised troubling questions. And it comes up, it seems like, once a week now, or once every couple of weeks. And so I think it’s pretty understandable why the leaders of civil rights organizations but, more importantly, moms and dads across the country, might start saying this is a crisis. What I’d say is this has been a slow-rolling crisis. This has been going on for a long time. This is not new, and we shouldn’t pretend that it’s new.

    The good news is, is that perhaps there’s some newfound awareness because of social media and video cameras and so forth that there are problems and challenges when it comes to how policing and our laws are applied in certain communities, and we have to pay attention to it and respond.

    And without making any excuses for criminal activities that take place in these communities, what we also know is that if you have impoverished communities that have been stripped away of opportunity, where children are born into abject poverty; they’ve got parents — often because of substance-abuse problems or incarceration or lack of education themselves — can’t do right by their kids; if it’s more likely that those kids end up in jail or dead, than they go to college. In communities where there are no fathers who can provide guidance to young men; communities where there’s no investment, and manufacturing has been stripped away; and drugs have flooded the community, and the drug industry ends up being the primary employer for a whole lot of folks — in those environments, if we think that we’re just going to send the police to do the dirty work of containing the problems that arise there without as a nation and as a society saying what can we do to change those communities, to help lift up those communities and give those kids opportunity, then we’re not going to solve this problem.


    Right Mr. President - So until ALL these things are once again politicized, and manipulated, and multiple platitudes are spoken, riots are an understandable outcome - of course we all understand you're not making any excuses for criminal activities Mr. President. BTW, why is it the vast majority videos shown only involve black people?
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Oh? I discussed the politics of Baltimore? Where? Post number, please.
    well we see they have a liberal Mayor and you talk of "the suing of the police dept hence a pattern, and your understanding of why they riot"..and thats politics..
    the police and politcs go hand in hand

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The problem is that it can't be point out that police brutality is an issue. It can't even be pointed out that we've seen these incidents before and they're nothing new. However, what REALLY hurt some feelings is that Obama had the audacity to refer to other issues in his speech. It's ODS at its finest.
    its "pointed "... try to write ina way thats understandable

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