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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post

    That's my read. If you don't agree, I guess we'll have to leave it at that.
    Your read is always against your President--something we both can agree on--no matter what he says or does .
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

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    Which began just after Reagan's amnesty.
    Except in the minds of delusional far righties--who think they all showed up on Obama day one .
    Hey my friend, long time.

    Hey, don't mean to warp you brain away from your Reagan obsession, but the influx occurred long before Reagan. Remember, the Amnesty was created to deal with the millions of illegals once and for all.

    As they say, fool me once, etc.

    That's what makes this latest attempt by liberal/progressives to reward lawless people and further decimate cities like Baltimore even more offensive. ProgLibs are just moving on to the next group to exploit and lie to for political gain.

    You're up on things. When do you think the Black communities will figure out they've been played, and finally see how this illegal alien reward program Democrats are pushing is going to screw them for decades?

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Your read is always against your President--something we both can agree on--no matter what he says or does .
    Oh, there are a few things he has said and done that I have no problem with. However, by and large, I think he is a pathetic, unqualified, narcissistic POS. Best thing that ever happened to Jimmy Carter.

    That being said, I would still refer to him as Mr. President, should we ever meet.

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Yes they were condemned. Then the President gave them reason to riot again. He provided a laundry list of ills that he said must be addressed, or, in effect, we must expect this type of action to continue. He did that by stating that he wasn't offering excuses, but then went on to provide a bunch of excuses.

    That's my read. If you don't agree, I guess we'll have to leave it at that.
    He didn't give them a reason, he just stated the obvious, that the reasons there were riots are still there. Like they needed permission to do it again.
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Government assistance did not create that problem.
    Greetings, Kobie.

    If you had the authority as POTUS to fix this problem, how would you tackle it? They need to have the personal incentive to become self reliant, so how do you teach that? Schools are there for everyone to attend, so they're not lacking that; there are not enough well paying jobs for anyone these days, so they're not singled out there; and their physical needs are being taken care of by the government, so it looks more like a motivational problem than anything else. Government assistance may not have created the problem, but it may have inadvertently set the wheels in motion to perpetuate it - sometimes spanning more than one generation. How do you change the mindset of angry unhappy people?

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Kobie.

    If you had the authority as POTUS to fix this problem, how would you tackle it? They need to have the personal incentive to become self reliant, so how do you teach that? Schools are there for everyone to attend, so they're not lacking that; there are not enough well paying jobs for anyone these days, so they're not singled out there; and their physical needs are being taken care of by the government, so it looks more like a motivational problem than anything else. Government assistance may not have created the problem, but it may have inadvertently set the wheels in motion to perpetuate it - sometimes spanning more than one generation. How do you change the mindset of angry unhappy people?
    Hello Pol,

    The problem isn't based on anything that started with the Conservative narrative regarding downturn in the quality of life of (white) America (supposedly in 2008). It's something which has existed for quite a few generations in the black community and the current situation simply isn't making better. Government assistance has verifiably improved the lives of millions of people who would have otherwise been on the street begging and engaging in criminality. All you need to do is look at any period in US urban history to recognize that. It has also made many people leeches of the system. That however is a separate subject in and of itself.

    The issue Obama discussed is whether this poverty and the treatment by police have caused many people to become justifiably angry at the system. That doesn't in any way excuse rioting and looting. What it does in fact excuse (not that you need excuses to engage in the 1st amendment right to protest) is the concerns, opinions and peaceful demonstrations which have occurred. I can't stress enough the difference between the narrative Travis so dishonestly tried to push and the actual discussion in place.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    He didn't give them a reason, he just stated the obvious, that the reasons there were riots are still there. Like they needed permission to do it again.
    I'm sure they won't need permission, but I'm sure they appreciated the validation and endorsement.

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I'm sure they won't need permission, but I'm sure they appreciated the validation and endorsement.
    Problem is the rioters aren't rioting for any of the reason he talked about.
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

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    Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore - CNNPolitics.com



    Thought this was interesting. I guess it takes the wind out of the 'tacit approval' crowd.

    How low the office has sunk that the president's ardent supporters seek accolades for the president stating the obvious.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Problem is the rioters aren't rioting for any of the reason he talked about.
    Really? Well dang, I guess the President was clueless again.

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