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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    There are so many posters who are getting so weirdly predictable. If Obama condemns riots, he didn't do it "passionately" enough. If Obama discusses an issue in any depth, he's justifying riots. If he says that there is no excuse for the rioting and looting, he's making excuses for the rioting and looting. It's absolutely astounding the kind of dumb **** that passes for discussion around this forum.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Uh... that's. ... that's me...
    You have terrible taste in music then.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

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    You have terrible taste in music then.
    I bet you're into K-pop. AREN'T YA?!? AREN'CHA? I've got nothing. I admit it. That's the best I could come up with in such a short time. Michael Jackson is NOT terrible. :'(
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, AlbqOwl.

    I must have missed that part - I had to take cookies out of the oven - but what exactly does he recommend as a solution to the problem? What I did hear was that he blamed everyone but the mob destroying the city, even though he did "tsk tsk tsk" them a bit for causing what I saw from videos as utter out-of-control pandemonium! :
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    So, imagine these pissed off, angry people. The President just laid out everything he thinks is wrong and that justifies their anger. Perhaps he even offered a few new ones they hadn't considered. And he does it with a preface that he's not trying to excuse anything BUT..........

    So what are they going to think later? Imagine: "Hey, things still suck, the President even talked about it. And it's been like three weeks, and it's still sucks. Let's riot."

    The denial on this thread that the President did this is quite remarkable.

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Hi Polgara

    So, imagine these pissed off, angry people. The President just laid out everything he thinks is wrong and that justifies their anger. Perhaps he even offered a few new ones they hadn't considered. And he does it with a preface that he's not trying to excuse anything BUT..........

    So what are they going to think later? Imagine: "Hey, things still suck, the President even talked about it. And it's been like three weeks, and it's still sucks. Let's riot."

    The denial on this thread that the President did this is quite remarkable.
    Yep, because they needed Obama's go ahead to riot in the first place. Do you understand how ridiculous your statements sound considering the fact that the riots took place BEFORE Obama said anything?
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    What a complete moron. A total dick. Nice job, rip the police and fan the flames. What an incompetent fool we have as president. Though, after several years of this, it's hard to believe that he isn't trying to do these things to our country.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Your complete inability to address my post is pretty indicative of just how little substance you've had since the beginning. It's no wonder that the only support you got for your convoluted argument was from Travis. That's not saying much. I'll e-mail Obama so he can discuss issues in a simpler way from now on. I'm sure DP's Conservatives will appreciate him for it.
    Blah, blah, blah. You need to create a new defensive narrative Hatuey. You've been using this fall back deflection meme to run from defeat for far too long.

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Only in conservative la-la land can a direct admonishment of rioters be considered tacit approval of rioting. The mental gymnastics being performed in this feeble attempt at maintaining a perfect score in the Blame Obama For Everything game are laughable.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yep, because they needed Obama's go ahead to riot in the first place. Do you understand how ridiculous your statements sound considering the fact that the riots took place BEFORE Obama said anything?


    What the hell are you going on about?

    When did I ever write that the President said anything before the riots?

    Holy cow Hatuey, you're melting down.

    I've been commenting this whole time about what he said TODAY. You know, the transcript excerpts I provided, as opposed to the cut and paste from the website that tells you what to think?

    If you could cut through the ideological welds, you might perceive my comments to Polgara represented what could happen going forward, given the Presidents comments.

    Don't be such a hack that you have to invent fantasy to try and save face. It should be even more embarrassing that you did it so publicly.

    I really don't want to cause you to do that.

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post


    I posted sections of the transcript of his comments. How can I be paraphrasing improperly?


    Did he not say the following:

    "And without making any excuses for criminal activities that take place in these communities, what we also know is that if you have impoverished communities that have been stripped away of opportunity, where children are born into abject poverty; they’ve got parents — often because of substance-abuse problems or incarceration or lack of education themselves — can’t do right by their kids;"

    Are you trying to suggest this is not an accurate paraphrase of his comments: Not to make any excuses, but let me offer these excuses....

    That is exactly what he did. Even worse, he is saying unless these issues are ALL addressed, riots will be something that occurs again. He has given the rioters justification for future riots. They can claim the President identified all these issues, and they haven't been addressed, so let's riot.

    You have to be really closed minded not to even consider this point is true.
    Greetings, ocean515.

    I don't understand how he intends to "correct the problem of impoverished communities that have been stripped away of opportunity" when it is his policies of "nanny government" that has created the problem by providing food stamps, housing assistance, and subsidies for everything else they want or need, including cell phones. What else can be done? Why blame anyone else, since none of us have anything to do with that? Why hasn't he created jobs for them, as he has promised every year since he was elected? And now he wants more jobs outsourced with his latest Trans-Pacific Treaty idea? That ought to solve a lot of problems - NOT! :

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