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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm not walking back anything - they're black and their savages - I've got the integrity and stones to call it what it is - I'm not entertained at all by what I'm seeing going on in Baltimore and in many places in the US. As a liberal, I'm sure you're delighted because that's what liberals live for and promote. Without conflict between citizens, you've got nothing.
    Just to make the point, in the very few minutes I saw coverage on TV of the riots before I turned the channel, I saw white folks doing it too. Funny how those don't count ot you...
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's right, they address the bolded part in your quote.



    Then why did you specifically bold out those parts of the statements? You do realize that those questions address YOUR bolded statements. Right?



    So your problem is that a liberal said it? That's not much of an argument. They're relevant to the situation.



    This statement is inconsistent with what Obama actually said. There aren't enough crystal ball arguments to change that.



    Your arguments are getting weaker. Obama addressed the issue from different perspectives. He criticized the current system that perpetuates criminality and violence. He criticized the police officers who engage in brutality. He criticized people who riot. What exactly would have made Ocean feel more comfortable with his words? Platitudes that avoid indepth discussion of the issue?
    Dang, you are unique Hatuey.

    I actually believe you think you're being clever.

    Don't EVER claim to be an independent thinker because my friend, I rarely come across a more ideologically welded brain as yours.

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    It would have had it said that and let it go at that. But then he proceeded to blunt it with additional criticism of law enforcement officers and a suggestion that Baltimore was just a continuation of a much bigger problem--he practically justified the rioters and blamed the police--and finished with comments that if everybody would just do what he, Obama, and the team he put together, recommends, the on going problem would be fixed.
    Greetings, AlbqOwl.

    I must have missed that part - I had to take cookies out of the oven - but what exactly does he recommend as a solution to the problem? What I did hear was that he blamed everyone but the mob destroying the city, even though he did "tsk tsk tsk" them a bit for causing what I saw from videos as utter out-of-control pandemonium! :

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Guess who would be the first in line to bitch if he did.
    There are so many posters who are getting so weirdly predictable. If Obama condemns riots, he didn't do it "passionately" enough. If Obama discusses an issue in any depth, he's justifying riots. If he says that there is no excuse for the rioting and looting, he's making excuses for the rioting and looting. It's absolutely astounding the kind of dumb **** that passes for discussion around this forum.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    How can you infer that he is giving "tacit approval" to the rioters when earlier in the same speech he was very explicit in his condemnation of the riots and the rioters?

    What excuses is he giving exactly?

    What he is doing is highlighting the issues that give rise to protests and protesters. These are excuses, they are just facts.


    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post


    I posted sections of the transcript of his comments. How can I be paraphrasing improperly?


    Did he not say the following:

    "And without making any excuses for criminal activities that take place in these communities, what we also know is that if you have impoverished communities that have been stripped away of opportunity, where children are born into abject poverty; they’ve got parents — often because of substance-abuse problems or incarceration or lack of education themselves — can’t do right by their kids;"

    Are you trying to suggest this is not an accurate paraphrase of his comments: Not to make any excuses, but let me offer these excuses....

    That is exactly what he did. Even worse, he is saying unless these issues are ALL addressed, riots will be something that occurs again. He has given the rioters justification for future riots. They can claim the President identified all these issues, and they haven't been addressed, so let's riot.

    You have to be really closed minded not to even consider this point is true.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Guess who would be the first in line to bitch if he did.
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Does it begin with "C" and end in "anadaJohn?"

    Can I get a hint?

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    There are so many posters who are getting so weirdly predictable. If Obama condemns riots, he didn't do it "passionately" enough. If Obama discusses an issue in any depth, he's justifying riots. If he says that there is no excuse for the rioting and looting, he's making excuses for the rioting and looting. It's absolutely astounding the kind of dumb **** that passes for discussion around this forum.
    I think people get confused and think you are "for the police", or "for the black savages", and it is impossible to be against rioting, and also against police misconduct.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    1. I claimed that Obama hasn't passionately called out the black savages and anarchists who are assaulting innocent white bystanders and also destroying public and private poverty. He still hasn't. His lame analysis only feeds the fire.

    2. He claims that what happened in Ferguson "leaves troubling questions". What troubling questions did his Justice Department and former Attorney General not answer in their Ferguson investigation and report? That comment alone manufactures a rationale for rioting where none exists. It excuses the protests by attempting to validate "troubling questions" that don't exist.

    3. Did the President say anything about the assault on the police officers in Baltimore yesterday? The seven who were injured, one seriously?

    The only ones performing mental gymnastics are the apologists, like you, who excuse this President's disastrous leadership, particularly on race issues, and that coddle the black savages attempting to take control of an American city.
    Hey CJ, check out this black savage!

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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Dang, you are unique Hatuey.

    I actually believe you think you're being clever.

    Don't EVER claim to be an independent thinker because my friend, I rarely come across a more ideologically welded brain as yours.

    Thanks for the laughs.

    Your complete inability to address my post is pretty indicative of just how little substance you've had since the beginning. It's no wonder that the only support you got for your convoluted argument was from Travis. That's not saying much. I'll e-mail Obama so he can discuss issues in a simpler way from now on. I'm sure DP's Conservatives will appreciate him for it.
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    Re: Obama: 'No excuse' for violence in Baltimore

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Hey CJ, check out this black savage!
    Uh... that's. ... that's me...
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