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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    I wrote a lot of words and made some observations.

    What exactly do you see as being untrue?

    If I knew exactly what you disagreed with, then maybe I could at least do you the courtesy of further support/explain my view.

    The point I was attempting to make with the Baltimore situation is that the Ruling Class need to quickly realize that they can hire a thousand cops and pay them 75-100 thousand per year each or hire 2 Poor People (maybe 4) for the same amount of money. The cost of security must be so prohibitive that it is cheaper to invest in social programs.

    Even if the "Newly Hired" Poor People just sat around and twiddled their thumbs all day. It still would be cheaper and more productive ... and that is the bottom line.

    Not a bad trade off I would think.

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    Baltimore has been under the democrat plantation for literally for almost a century now. Trillions have been poured into these communities via the taxpayer. And your answer is they need more?

    As a former resident of Baltimore, former tax payer of that city, I say not only no, but HELL NO!
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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    In a sense there was huge civil unrest happening in Ukraine. There was animosity between Eastern Ukrainians and the rest of the country. Those living in the East were Politically Pro-Russian because most all the jobs and economic activity in the Eastern area was with Russian trade.

    Before the coup in Kiev even got serious, the Eastern Folks wanted to negotiate some sort of autonomy if ever the rest of Ukraine chose to go completely West and/or with NATO. The Eastern Folks felt they had no real political influence within the Kiev political system itself.

    There are not many instances thus far, and where it can be said that the Eastern (Pro-Russia) folks are attacking and killing people in Kiev. (The seat of government.)

    However; there has been a systematic attack carried out by the Kiev government to destroy all the infrastructure and every major factory which is situated in the East, just like NATO did in Libya and what Israel did in Gaza.

    The East wants some "independence" (some respect" like a regular Federal Democratic State has. They are not demanding total independence, they are asking only for a negotiated Autonomy.
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    The Poor Folks in America are asking that their voices be heard and to be given some sort of "Political Respect" in the same way the Eastern Folks in Ukraine set out to do.

    When the Folks in Baltimore destroyed the pharmacy, they were destroying infrastructure in the same way that the government forces were doing in Eastern Ukraine.

    The cost of destroying infrastructure in Ukraine is a form of National Suicide in order to have the Eastern Folks brought to their knees.

    The Ruling Class always play for "Keeps".

    In Baltimore; if the protesters want to win anything at all, they must make the cost too prohibitive for the Ruling Class to ignore. The Ruling Class need to understand that either they deal with the issues raised by protesters or the National Suicide scenario is at the doorstep. The protesters must be prepared to drive major cities towards higher property taxes just to pay the "Policing Costs" alone.

    Protests must take place where the Middle Class live ..... Not in the Lower Class neighbourhood itself. Nothing is gained by destroying your own cars and stuff ..... It must be done in city central. The Ruling Class must shown that it is cheaper for the Ruling Class to begin serious negotiations than to pay the security and infrastructure damage. It may take a lot of damage and policing costs over an extended period of time, but sooner or later the Ruling Class must come to the negotiating table.

    Because of the curfew, protesters need to aimlessly enter buildings during business hours in the center of the city and there will be a huge cost of having security investigate you before being allowed to enter ..... every Upper Class shopper will have their shopping experience seriously delayed. A huge cost to city infrastructure. Maybe to forget and leave your shopping bag in the store and the disruption would be just as if the TSA found an abandoned bag at an airport. Lots of financial cost for robots and specialty police services involved in securing every abandoned bag.

    ..... And up the ante during the hot days of summer and where the cops dressed in riot/military gear need to turn the fire hoses on themselves just to cool off.

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    If these folks want to make a statement, they need to march on Washington where the ruling class sits. It is obvious as a socialist that you despise capitalists, the entrepreneurs, who create jobs. CVS Pharmacy does not represent ruling infrastructure. It is merely a product of entrepreneurial endeavors to create a source whereby people can get their pharmaceutical supplies, prescriptons, candy, food and all the while providing jobs so that people don't have to be poor. It is just like a mini grocery store. To burn it down does nothing for the proletariat cause. I wonder how many of the lower class poor are now out of work because of what the rioters did to CVS, and various other businesses? Yeah, let's use Proletariat because I have read your political persuasion, and your words speak of pure Marxism and hate for Capitalism.
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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Baltimore has been under the democrat plantation for literally for almost a century now. Trillions have been poured into these communities via the taxpayer. And your answer is they need more?

    As a former resident of Baltimore, former tax payer of that city, I say not only no, but HELL NO!

    Glad you were able to escape.

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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    I wrote a lot of words and made some observations.

    What exactly do you see as being untrue?

    If I knew exactly what you disagreed with, then maybe I could at least do you the courtesy of further support/explain my view.

    The point I was attempting to make with the Baltimore situation is that the Ruling Class need to quickly realize that they can hire a thousand cops and pay them 75-100 thousand per year each or hire 2 Poor People (maybe 4) for the same amount of money. The cost of security must be so prohibitive that it is cheaper to invest in social programs.

    Even if the "Newly Hired" Poor People just sat around and twiddled their thumbs all day. It still would be cheaper and more productive ... and that is the bottom line.

    Not a bad trade off I would think.

    Calm
    I don't know what you mean exactly about ruling class because the only ruling class that I see in Baltimore belongs to the Democrat Party, and like JMAC says, you can see the evidence of their lack of leadership.

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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    Right ok nice backtrack. Now it doesn't fit your agenda we need the grain of salt. You said that it was posted from Snopes but you clearly didn't read the page, which clearly states that what you posted is false. You just jumped to a conclusion in your eagerness to fulfill your confirmation bias.

    Snopes posted journalist sources for the conclusions they came to. You just completely misrepresented the situation completely. Again, read your source before you start quoting it out of context (i.e. without the big this isn't true red flashing dot).

    Fact of the matter is, given what we know right now, what you posted is a load of hearsay, BS and really, libel too. Your own source says so.
    No Nilly. Snopes did not show it was false.
    Nor could they.
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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I think it would be only natural to get ticked off having a mob come along and hurl projectiles at you. The videos taken and posted online show a few scuffles but for the most part a lot of white folks were standing behind the barriers and having trashcans full of bottles and anything else these heathens could get their hands on and thrown at the people. And when one of the patrons confronted this out of control I heard folks pleading with the rioters to stop and asking where in the world were the police? I saw this out of control mob jumping on cars with folks inside them bashing in windshields and other cars being destroyed. I saw a guy get hit with something and it knocked him to the ground and then the rioter came over while he was down and started pounding on him with his fists. I saw people inside some establishment where things were being thrown through the windows and all you could hear was screaming. It was well reported that right at Camden Yards the police in riot gear were being pelted with trash as well and the rioters were in their face but they had been given orders not to react. There is no excuse for this kind of behavior.
    This is the last time I am addressing you because you keep leaving out facts. Reading bull**** articles from whatever rightwing blog you want doesn't given you the facts.

    Drunk bar patrons were using racial slurs towards protestors. Chants of "run them over" as well. That's what started it. BCPD (Baltimore Police) which always has a presences there didn't break it up then. They let it go and then a bar patron throws a beer can.. then another and another.. That's when it kicked off.

    "I don’t know who threw something first, but I heard a shift to jeers and boos from the people drinking and ran right over to it and saw beers being tossed from behind a gate that keeps Pickles drinkers from standing in the road and bottles being whipped back at the drinkers. Some people at Pickles stood up and moved toward the protesters though they were protected by the gate. Then, protesters pulled away the gate protecting Pickles customers from the street. Men from Pickles and elsewhere charged toward the protesters and the protesters charged the Pickles customers. It was at this point that I stopped being a journalist and became someone who was trying to help out."

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    Both sides were absolutely guilty in the incident but it started with drunk fans (Orioles and Red Sox) chanting **** that was highly racial. Now one group wants to play innocent because they were idiots and decided to encourage racist chants by their friends and thought they were untouchable. You fell hook line and sinker into a bull**** narrative.
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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    As you were the one originally making the off topic remark you are doing no such thing.

    The best thing you can do is stop replying.
    So, no, you can't find an example. But I knew that anyway.
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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So, no, you can't find an example. But I knew that anyway.
    Now you are further compounding your absurdity by speaking nonsense. Figures.
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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Now you are further compounding your absurdity by speaking nonsense. Figures.
    Are you truly an ex con, or do you just have a side stepping user name, while really being just another apologist for police corruption? Noting your typical interest at DP.
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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Are you truly an ex con, or do you just have a side stepping user name, while really being just another apologist for police corruption? Noting your typical interest at DP.



    Irrelevant question.
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