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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Of course that's all you see. You can ignore it because it's not shown on tv nationwide. It's not know in front of your eyes everyday.

    https://youtu.be/u4xjaWjipZs

    https://youtu.be/eDTbSmF76N8

    https://youtu.be/TSQZpo8LdSk

    None of those cops had charges filed against them for A&B.

    https://youtu.be/fkJUVrNrV5Q



    That's where the problem lies. It's actual ignorance (lack of knowledge) of what goes on day in and day out. National media doesn't report Trayvon Scott, George V. King (who has tased a total of 5 times) or Anthony Anderson.. in fact there are 31 total cases of Baltimore police custody deaths with in the last 4 years. But I am not listing all of them. I am listing the cases in which their were PEACEFUL protests in Baltimore that weren't covered by National media. Even further to drive the point home 109 total cases in the Baltimore area (Baltimore city, Prince George, Baltimore, Anne Arundel, and Howard Counties) in the last 4 years.

    That ACLU, local community and others have for years tried to address the issue and the BCPD and the surrounding areas have basically told them "there is no problem". Which was no different then what the BCPD said for years over their illegal dentition program. BCPD was well-known to arrest people for "minor" charges some of them creative interpretation of the laws just to arrest people. Massively done during the 2000's. People were detained at Central Booking for several days even before seeing court commissioner which is illegal (due process law and Maryland law). So people would spend days in Jail for **** like jaywalking or in the case of a Virginia couple for "trespassing" on a public street because they tried to ask for directions on how to get to I-95 (they were lost). State of Maryland had to step in an pass new laws because of the BCPD illegal program because under Maryland law at the time.. if you were arrested and not charged, it stayed on your record. But State of Maryland tacked on get out of jail card for police. You (the victim) couldn't sue for wrongful detainment. Problem is there are hundreds if not thousands in Baltimore arrested this way over the last 10 years who can't afford the lawyer to bring the official complaint to have your record cleared. So they can't pass background checks. So they become unemployable which means they become a burden on society when it comes to welfare and welfare isn't gonna pay the bills. So they are gonna start doing real crimes and it's a vicious cycle.

    That's Baltimore. That's always been Baltimore. Baltimore's politicians care more about Federal dollars from the Justice Department in Homeland Security so they look to arrest to arrest and pad their numbers. I don't know if you know but Federal dollars from Justice and Homeland are based on the numbers you can show. Not on actual evidence of those crimes being committed.

    So you can sit on your ivory tower all you want. You don't personally deal with what people in Baltimore deal with that is ROUTINELY ignored by the national media. So when you see a riot, you pass judgement on something you aren't even close to understanding.
    You're probably right that Baltimore has problems that need to be dealt with. Maybe I have been overly dismissive without seeing that side of it. That said, rioting is not the answer.

    The CVS owners and employees didn't do anything to deserve having their store burned down. The officers that were assaulted were not the same as those who perpetrated the crimes against those young men. The lady who had a trash can thrown at her didn't do anything to deserve it. The owners of the elderly home that was burned down, and the old people living there, never did anything to anyone.

    So at the end of the day, senseless chaos and violence are not the answer. There are more constructive ways to be heard

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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    The crimes statistics would indicate differently.

    You can't be seriously proposing that there's a nation wide conspiracy within the criminal justice community for the sole purpose of harassing minorities, arresting and charging them, and incarcerating such a large percentage of their population, and all of this is slipping through the criminal justice system unnoticed, un-objected to. Such a conspiracy would have to include thousands, tens of thousands of people, and would be virtually impossible to maintain and contain.

    No, Occam's Razor applies, and the far simpler and far more plausible explanation is that minorities, for whatever reason, commit more crimes and are caught committing more crimes.

    I'll grant you that there are some cases that follow the arc that I've outlined above, but they are statistical outliers and not the norm, especially when considering how many minorities are changed and incarcerated for violent crimes.

    What's your solution? Minorities cease being charged for the crimes they commit? (most often upon their own ethnic group)
    Not a conspiracy, just cops acting on stereotypes and profiling at rates differently than for whites.
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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Not a conspiracy, just cops acting on stereotypes and profiling at rates differently than for whites.
    It has to go deeper than that, as a LEO can only arrest someone.

    The prosecutor has to charge them, and a judge and jury has to hear the case and render their decision. For the incarceration rates to be what they are, all of these people would have to be knowingly or unknowingly doing the same thing, and it's not plausible.
    It's a global Jihad, stupid. Allowing that poison into the country is only going to increase the damage it inflicts on others.
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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    yeah, she's an idiot.
    What's with her hyphenated last name--is she a countess, or something? She makes those other eminent black female politicians, Cynthia McKinney and Maxine Waters, look impressive--and that takes some doing.

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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    It has to go deeper than that, as a LEO can only arrest someone.

    The prosecutor has to charge them, and a judge and jury has to hear the case and render their decision. For the incarceration rates to be what they are, all of these people would have to be knowingly or unknowingly doing the same thing, and it's not plausible.
    And none of that can happen if they never pick up the white guys.
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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You're probably right that Baltimore has problems that need to be dealt with. Maybe I have been overly dismissive without seeing that side of it. That said, rioting is not the answer.

    The CVS owners and employees didn't do anything to deserve having their store burned down. The officers that were assaulted were not the same as those who perpetrated the crimes against those young men. The lady who had a trash can thrown at her didn't do anything to deserve it. The owners of the elderly home that was burned down, and the old people living there, never did anything to anyone.

    So at the end of the day, senseless chaos and violence are not the answer. There are more constructive ways to be heard
    And I never said rioting was. All I have said is I understand why they rioted.

    I am not saying CVS did anything. But that CVS area (that block) is where BCPD routinely arrest people for loitering (bull**** charge) and harass people in public areas as that's also a metro stop. Now those Officers in which you say are not the same who perpetrated crimes at the time.. it's absolutely true in that specific moment. But BCPD is the "enemy" to those who rioted. If you are part of the problem you aren't innocent in their view. A cop is a cop is a cop.

    Owners of the elderly home? You mean the Southern Baptist Church which got that property through kick back from the current Mayor. But there is also no evidence saying it's from the riots.. Could have been burned down for insurance purposes which is why the ATF is involved because that fire happened way far away from West Baltimore.
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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And none of that can happen if they never pick up the white guys.
    But they do pick up white guys, and arrest them, and charge them, and incarcerate them.
    It's a global Jihad, stupid. Allowing that poison into the country is only going to increase the damage it inflicts on others.
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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    And my comment was about what to do about it.
    1. You already replied to this. Our exchange was not about what to do about it.
    2. The information provided showed that you were wrong. Which is what was being pointed out and is what our exchange was about.
    3. You then deflected by ignoring what was said and instead referred to "cones" which the reply had nothing to do with.
    4. You again deflected by saying the provided Youtube video wasn't available when it was and yet showed you could access the other Youtube video posted by another.
    Stop with the deflection. Cans were also thrown at folks, not just cars.
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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    But they do pick up white guys, and arrest them, and charge them, and incarcerate them.
    But not for no or little reason. And not for 'being white'.
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    Re: Baltimore Police: Gangs Enter Partnership to ‘Take-Out’ Officers [W:99]

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Vesper.. You weren't at Pickles, Sliders, Bullpen and so on. You have NO clue what kicked things off. I was and so was this guy who wrote to correct the narrative that is being spread with his photo being used as he was "protecting a white lay from thugs".

    You had Boston fans calling people N*****s and throwing bottles. You had Baltimore fans who didn't stop it but rather encouraged it because they were drunk off their asses as well. End of the day it was a FAILURE on all sides.
    I think it would be only natural to get ticked off having a mob come along and hurl projectiles at you. The videos taken and posted online show a few scuffles but for the most part a lot of white folks were standing behind the barriers and having trashcans full of bottles and anything else these heathens could get their hands on and thrown at the people. And when one of the patrons confronted this out of control I heard folks pleading with the rioters to stop and asking where in the world were the police? I saw this out of control mob jumping on cars with folks inside them bashing in windshields and other cars being destroyed. I saw a guy get hit with something and it knocked him to the ground and then the rioter came over while he was down and started pounding on him with his fists. I saw people inside some establishment where things were being thrown through the windows and all you could hear was screaming. It was well reported that right at Camden Yards the police in riot gear were being pelted with trash as well and the rioters were in their face but they had been given orders not to react. There is no excuse for this kind of behavior.

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