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    Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Last month, we are told, the world enjoyed “its hottest March since records began in 1880”. This year, according to “US government scientists”, already bids to outrank 2014 as “the hottest ever”. The figures from the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) were based, like all the other three official surface temperature records on which the world’s scientists and politicians rely, on data compiled from a network of weather stations by NOAA’s Global Historical Climate Network (GHCN).
    But here there is a puzzle. These temperature records are not the only ones with official status. The other two, Remote Sensing Systems (RSS) and the University of Alabama (UAH), are based on a quite different method of measuring temperature data, by satellites. And these, as they have increasingly done in recent years, give a strikingly different picture. Neither shows last month as anything like the hottest March on record, any more than they showed 2014 as “the hottest year ever”

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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Man, the title of this article should read "Kookville caving in"
    Hmm

    Lets see... measuring temperature by satellite.. not as accurate as in place thermometer.

    Plus measuring temperature by satellite is new tech, hence the amount of data is limited. Where as we have temperature readings from weather stations going back centuries.. just saying.
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    So a contrarian front group are sponsoring a repeated review of established data, prompted by two newspaper articles by Christopher Booker, who not only denies AGW, but also the health risks of passive smoking and asbestos.
    The "top scientists" recruited are all known contrarians with links to the Heartland or Cato institutes among others. I wonder if they will come to the same conclusion as the "BEST" review, which bit the hand that fed it and found the data was sound.
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    Yeah, especially when that thermometer is placed in areas where they know it will give higher readings.
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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    So a contrarian front group are sponsoring a repeated review of established data, prompted by two newspaper articles by Christopher Booker, who not only denies AGW, but also the health risks of passive smoking and asbestos.
    The "top scientists" recruited are all known contrarians with links to the Heartland or Cato institutes among others. I wonder if they will come to the same conclusion as the "BEST" review, which bit the hand that fed it and found the data was sound.
    Ah, I see. You don't like the data so you must attack the people rather than the data. I think they call that a giant fail...
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    The data is rock solid, it's the "experts" that are flaky. You wish it were not so, but facts trump faith.
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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, especially when that thermometer is placed in areas where they know it will give higher readings.
    Using a rating system developed by a "skeptic" group, the sites rated as "poorly" located actually show a colder trend than the sites rated "good." Not warmer.
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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Hmm

    Lets see... measuring temperature by satellite.. not as accurate as in place thermometer.

    Plus measuring temperature by satellite is new tech, hence the amount of data is limited. Where as we have temperature readings from weather stations going back centuries.. just saying.
    Even when they measure temperature via thermometer they've routinely manipulated the data to show that the Globe was " warming ".

    " Homogenizing " and " Science " is what they call it.

    I and everyone else not gullible enough to be sucked into this scam call it what it is, fraud.

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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Even when they measure temperature via thermometer they've routinely manipulated the data to show that the Globe was " warming ".

    " Homogenizing " and " Science " is what they call it.

    I and everyone else not gullible enough to be sucked into this scam call it what it is, fraud.
    They corrected data using a legitimate method. The data is more accurate afterwards.

    You are demanding the use of less accurate data.
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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    The data is rock solid, it's the "experts" that are flaky. You wish it were not so, but facts trump faith.
    Really ? Actually the data AND the Pro-AGW " scientists " are both filled with crap.

    The NOAA got busted manipulating temperature data back in 2012, when they declared that July 2012 was the hottest month on record surpassing the previous record in July 1932.

    Initially they defended then process of Homogenizing Temperature data and then a ACTUAL Scientists exposed their fraudulent processes.

    Eventually the NOAA rescinded their claim reinstating July 1932 as the Hottest month on record.

    So much for " homogenizing " being a credible scientific process.

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