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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Not true at all, more bull**** from the climate deniers and their fossil fuel backers. The only fraud here is the far right anti climate deniers spreading the same falsehoods over and over again.
    Good rebuttal !!

    All that text wasted. Next time just post " Nu-uuhh !! "

    Its the short hand equivalent of the nonsense you just posted.

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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Hmm

    Lets see... measuring temperature by satellite.. not as accurate as in place thermometer.

    Plus measuring temperature by satellite is new tech, hence the amount of data is limited. Where as we have temperature readings from weather stations going back centuries.. just saying.
    Like when real estate development changes a historic reading site from natural foliage and tree canopy to a mall with 10 acres of black-top? I am sure the readings would stay the same.
    The Gruber-crat is strong in this one!

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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Man, the title of this article should read "Kookville caving in"
    You'll have to help me out. The article essentially announced that some team will examine the same records that have been examined many times before. OK, that's fine. It is their time to waste or spend how they see fit. And they invited submissions with a deadline of a little over 2 months from now. And then they promise to publish the results of these submissions, which they hope will be less than 10 pages each.

    Looks like a joke to me. The kind of study that would actually help resolve any controversy would take months of research and statistical work, and weeks to get the results into a form suitable for publishing. I'd think a more realistic deadline is at least six months and more likely a year - not by June 30 of this year. I can't figure out what their goal is, but it's not to resolve any actual controversy because if that was the goal they'd take an entirely different approach.

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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol ! For some reason, their process of " homogenization " always leads to warming. The problem with your desperate attempts to justify fraud very poorly disguised as Science is they only " corrected " it after a Scientist not affiliated with the NOAA exposed their data as fraudulent.

    The NOAA should release reports with the reminder that their process of arbitrarily manipulating data has nothing to do with Science.


    Just to verify, here's their initial " report " that shows July 2012 surpassing July 1936.

    National Overview - July 2012 | State of the Climate | National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)

    Attachment 67183648

    Here's their correction from June 29th...

    Attachment 67183649

    And the NOAA isn't alone when it comes to manipulating temperature data.

    The heat is on. Bureau of Meteorology
    You make this leap that the adjustments are unwarranted. Nobody has ever proved that to you. You just assumed it must be true.
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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Follow the money. If you support global warming science grants are easy and plentiful. Many organizations fudge data to keep the money spigot open.
    EXACTLY, follow the money!!! All these GW scientists can only continue to GET PAID if they can continue to perpetuate that GW is man caused and is at dangerous levels. They sure as hell aren't going to put themselves out of a cushy job. What do rational people think their 'conclusions' are going to be?
    The Gruber-crat is strong in this one!

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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Hmm

    Lets see... measuring temperature by satellite.. not as accurate as in place thermometer.

    Plus measuring temperature by satellite is new tech, hence the amount of data is limited. Where as we have temperature readings from weather stations going back centuries.. just saying.
    i wouldnt rate thermometers as accurate,either that or i would label thos weather gurus as bold faces liars.

    in palm springs cali,they often said 110 degrees,while everyones thermomet would be at 120-125,thermal would hit 130.there were places in the 29 palms marine base where thermometer hit 140,yet people claim it impossible because the record recorded temp was never that high.yet downtown and a valley where marines train is 2 different things.in the right locations,the mountains trap the heat like an oven.
    [Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.] ROBERT BLOCH .

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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, especially when that thermometer is placed in areas where they know it will give higher readings.
    Are you saying that relying on the temperature at the international airport in Austin, Texas to tell us that we are having record high temperatures in not sound science?OK we'll throw in the temperature recorded right next to a mayor 8 lain expressway? OK THEN, we'll throw in the temperature of down town Austin to prove that it is getting hotter the more cars drive through down town near I35.

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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Pssst! It's the satellite data that your side claims is correct, and the homogenised observations are wrong. Get with the new pogramme!
    Don't you get it ? The satellite data is the only data in any way useful or comparable globally, however its duration is far too short to be of any consequence whatsoever

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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Don't you get it ? The satellite data is the only data in any way useful or comparable globally, however its duration is far too short to be of any consequence whatsoever
    Isn't that convenient?
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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    EXACTLY, follow the money!!! All these GW scientists can only continue to GET PAID if they can continue to perpetuate that GW is man caused and is at dangerous levels. They sure as hell aren't going to put themselves out of a cushy job. What do rational people think their 'conclusions' are going to be?
    They come to the conclusions their governments pay them to, which is why in the UK I've probably paid an extra $4000 more for my energy in green tax over the last 5 years than I actually needed to

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