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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They corrected data using a legitimate method. The data is more accurate afterwards.

    You are demanding the use of less accurate data.
    Did they ?

    Empirical data is a essential part of the Scientific method. Now, people on the left have redifined the Scientific method by stating that data manipulation is a " credible " part of the process.

    Lol...and Conservatives are the ignorant one's ?

    If Homogenizing is " credible " then why did the NOAA rescind their assertion that July 2012 was the hottest month on record ?

    They changed their minds because they got busted and were exposed by a REAL Scientist manipulating data to arrive at a predetermined conclusion.
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    Thats not Science, thats fraud.

    You people need to learn the difference.

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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Even when they measure temperature via thermometer they've routinely manipulated the data to show that the Globe was " warming ".

    " Homogenizing " and " Science " is what they call it.

    I and everyone else not gullible enough to be sucked into this scam call it what it is, fraud.
    Not true at all, more bull**** from the climate deniers and their fossil fuel backers. The only fraud here is the far right anti climate deniers spreading the same falsehoods over and over again.
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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    So a contrarian front group are sponsoring a repeated review of established data, prompted by two newspaper articles by Christopher Booker, who not only denies AGW, but also the health risks of passive smoking and asbestos.
    The "top scientists" recruited are all known contrarians with links to the Heartland or Cato institutes among others. I wonder if they will come to the same conclusion as the "BEST" review, which bit the hand that fed it and found the data was sound.
    Then you shouldn't worry Manc Skipper, I'm sure there will be calls for the following to be professionally destroyed for daring to investigate scientific methodology. Everyone knows there is a special scientific method in play with AGW, and people aren't allowed to review it.

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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Did they ?

    Empirical data is a essential part of the Scientific method. Now, people on the left have redifined the Scientific method by stating that data manipulation is a " credible " part of the process.

    Lol...and Conservatives are the ignorant one's ?

    If Homogenizing is " credible " then why did the NOAA rescind their assertion that July 2012 was the hottest month on record ?

    They changed their minds because they got busted and were exposed by a REAL Scientist manipulating data to arrive at a predetermined conclusion.
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    Thats not Science, thats fraud.

    You people need to learn the difference.
    They didn't rescind anything. They corrected the data.

    When they release those initial reports, they always remind people that they aren't final reports and that error correction checks are still in progress.
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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    The satellite reading only lasts since 1979 . Given that these temperature trends take centuries to establish it is by its short duration entirely meaningless

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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    The satellite reading only lasts since 1979 . Given that these temperature trends take centuries to establish it is by its short duration entirely meaningless
    Pssst! It's the satellite data that your side claims is correct, and the homogenised observations are wrong. Get with the new pogramme!
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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Man, the title of this article should read "Kookville caving in"
    Follow the money. If you support global warming science grants are easy and plentiful. Many organizations fudge data to keep the money spigot open.
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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Follow the money. If you support global warming science grants are easy and plentiful. Many organizations fudge data to keep the money spigot open.
    Somebody saw you coming to have unloaded that much koolade.
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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Follow the money. If you support global warming science grants are easy and plentiful. Many organizations fudge data to keep the money spigot open.
    We can't trust scientists! They get paid!
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    Re: Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They didn't rescind anything. They corrected the data.

    When they release those initial reports, they always remind people that they aren't final reports and that error correction checks are still in progress.
    Lol ! For some reason, their process of " homogenization " always leads to warming. The problem with your desperate attempts to justify fraud very poorly disguised as Science is they only " corrected " it after a Scientist not affiliated with the NOAA exposed their data as fraudulent.

    The NOAA should release reports with the reminder that their process of arbitrarily manipulating data has nothing to do with Science.


    Just to verify, here's their initial " report " that shows July 2012 surpassing July 1936.

    National Overview - July 2012 | State of the Climate | National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)

    noaa_usavg_temps_july_focuson_1936_from_20121.jpg

    Here's their correction from June 29th...

    noaa_usavg_temps_july_focuson_1936_from_20141.jpg

    And the NOAA isn't alone when it comes to manipulating temperature data.

    The heat is on. Bureau of Meteorology

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