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    Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent [W:437]

    Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are down to ‘natural variability’, says study

    • Duke University study looked at 1,000 years of temperature records
    • It compared it to the most severe emissions scenarios by the IPCC
    • Found that natural variability can slow or speed the rate of warming
    • These 'climate wiggles' were not properly accounted for in IPCC report

    By ELLIE ZOLFAGHARIFARD FOR DAILYMAIL.COM


    Read more: Global warming has slowed but our climate models are WRONG | Daily Mail Online
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    Wait, you mean all the frothing, and foaming over "global warming" was based on manipulated, or incomplete data, and flawed models? I......AM.......SHOCKED!!!!!!
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wait, you mean all the frothing, and foaming over "global warming" was based on manipulated, or incomplete data, and flawed models? I......AM.......SHOCKED!!!!!!
    I wonder if that explains why so many people are trading in their hybrids for SUV's

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wait, you mean all the frothing, and foaming over "global warming" was based on manipulated, or incomplete data, and flawed models? I......AM.......SHOCKED!!!!!!
    I'm not shocked. When the real goal has nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with wealth redistribution, you don't expect the left and their lemmings to tell the truth, do you?
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    I wonder if that explains why so many people are trading in their hybrids for SUV's
    Tax policy and motor fuel cost changes are a more likely cause.
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wait, you mean all the frothing, and foaming over "global warming" was based on manipulated, or incomplete data, and flawed models? I......AM.......SHOCKED!!!!!!
    That is absolutely and entirely not what the study says. What it says is that the most extreme models are probably not accurate and more moderate models likely, which is not what you would call unexpected. It does not create any doubt about man made effects on climate change. Here is the actual study: Comparing the model-simulated global warming signal to observations using empirical estimates of unforced noise : Scientific Reports : Nature Publishing Group
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is absolutely and entirely not what the study says. What it says is that the most extreme models are probably not accurate and more moderate models likely, which is not what you would call unexpected. It does not create any doubt about man made effects on climate change. Here is the actual study: Comparing the model-simulated global warming signal to observations using empirical estimates of unforced noise : Scientific Reports : Nature Publishing Group
    And that's what happens when you rely on the Daily Fail to paraphrase and "inform" you...

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm not shocked. When the real goal has nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with wealth redistribution, you don't expect the left and their lemmings to tell the truth, do you?
    It has more to do with expanding government power/control - wealth redistribution is but one possible path under that scenario. If the government can tax (fine?) you for not having a "private" medical care insurance policy then it is a small step to add a "green" mode of transportation (or home energy source) to the must buy/use list.
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm not shocked. When the real goal has nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with wealth redistribution, you don't expect the left and their lemmings to tell the truth, do you?
    Don't be so cynical.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    And that's what happens when you rely on the Daily Fail to paraphrase and "inform" you...
    I would be quick to point out I just paraphrased the study as well, but I do encourage people to read it for themselves. Never trust others to do your thinking for you.
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wait, you mean all the frothing, and foaming over "global warming" was based on manipulated, or incomplete data, and flawed models? I......AM.......SHOCKED!!!!!!
    What you mean my government has had me paying a 20% carbon tax levy on my energy bills for the last 5 years .... for NOTHING !

    Meanwhile in the real world just look at what all that extra nasty nasty CO2 has been doing for us while it hasn't been following the doomsday models

    Increased levels of carbon dioxide (CO2) have helped boost green foliage across the world's arid regions over the past 30 years through a process called CO2 fertilisation, according to CSIRO research. In findings based on satellite observations, CSIRO, in collaboration with the Australian National University (ANU), found that this CO2 fertilisation correlated with an 11 per cent increase in foliage cover from 1982-2010 across parts of the arid areas studied in Australia, North America, the Middle East and Africa

    So it turns out that all this demonized extra CO2 has actually been a good thing for the biosphere ! Who'd have thunk it

    Deserts 'greening' from rising carbon dioxide: Green foliage boosted across the world's arid regions -- ScienceDaily

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