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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Ontario is being bankrupted by liberal green idiots and they are now going to attempt to bankrupt the citizenry as well. Get ready out in BC for having your federal tax dollars funneled into Ontario as our economy craters in the next few years.

    Sad to say, but after living my entire life here, I will be seriously considering a move out of this Province in the near future. I won't enter energy poverty to fund these destructive fools.
    I was born there, a little village called Elora. Your words make me sad. Just as sad as when the NDP was in power here in the 90's and families were being ripped apart because there was no work. For the first time in its history, there was not enough work in BC.

    Now, "Upper Canada" is faltering, and while I have no problem with transfer payments, this is not how Canada should operate.

    I am less concerned about socialists here. After the devastation we handed them in '12, they're phone booth meetings have produced nothing of interest; the new leader was the only candidate and while a nice guy, he's still a socialist. They are trying to re-invent themselves, they went the 'eco route' and opposed an oil pipeline not even proposed yet. That pissed off they're core, unionized workers in the resource industry so they left. The politics here now is "drill mother****er, drill and hurry up on those pipelines". The usually leftist media is harping that there isn't enough development like the Liberals promised.

    If you are thinking of coming here, know that it really is a different culture here. Vancouver may look like a busy, industrious city, but one of the biggest industries is leisure. Ontarians sometimes have trouble adapting. A lot of laws are simply ignored here because there isn't a problem. We have marijuana dispensaries on every block and "Insight" the safe injection site is a national pride. I like it laid back like that.
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    I've only been here a short while, but threads like this make me even more skeptical about our future as a nation, or species.
    Complete, shocking, and inexcusable scientific and mathetical illiteracy abounds. If this forum's members represent a cross-section of society at large, we are truly fubar'd.
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The Models ARE wrong.

    Global warming exist only in Computer models that are constructed using manipulated data.

    For example ; the NOAA claimed that July 2012 was the hottest month on record, surpassing July 1932.

    They made the claim based on their own " Homogenized " ( manipulated ) temperature data.

    Well a REAL SCIENTIST looked into their claim and exposed it as the fraud that it was forcing the NOAA to make a quiet revision that reinstated July 1932 as the Hottest month on record.

    You see, " homogenizing " ( manipulating ) temperature data to arrive at a predetermined conclusion isn't Science, its FRAUD

    I wish those on the left would learn the difference.
    Well, there's certainly enough evidence that people needn't exaggerate.
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    They did not say the models do not work, they said the most extreme models are unlikely. That is a very large, unsubtle difference.
    But given the media hysteria surrounding the most extreme models don't you think it might be a good idea to check out how they are doing ? After all its this extremism that has moulded public perceptions on this issue

    STILL Epic Fail: 73 Climate Models vs. Measurements, Running 5-Year Means Roy Spencer, PhD

    Like I said crystal balls would have been more accurate

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I would be quick to point out I just paraphrased the study as well, but I do encourage people to read it for themselves. Never trust others to do your thinking for you.
    Thinking for myself is too difficult.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    And yet this study says they are not wrong. And every other study. And all you have is misrepresentations of what reality is
    It doesn't matter what the studies say the thermometers that tell a different story. If we just look at the US for example

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    Lets put todays temperatures into some kind of proper historical context. Here are the post glacial temperature records from ice cores from both poles

    Ice Cores

    Today is well within natural temperature norms in both its level and rate of change. There really is nothing to worry about whatsoever
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is absolutely and entirely not what the study says. What it says is that the most extreme models are probably not accurate and more moderate models likely, which is not what you would call unexpected. It does not create any doubt about man made effects on climate change. Here is the actual study: Comparing the model-simulated global warming signal to observations using empirical estimates of unforced noise : Scientific Reports : Nature Publishing Group
    But the fact is, we've had absolutely no measurable global warming in more than 19 years and all of the predictions made by the doom-and-gloom left have been completely false. The polar ice caps did not vanish by 2013, in fact, they've coming back quite nicely. All of the super-hurricanes predicted never came to pass. Any model that doesn't match up with reality is simply false.
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    It doesn't matter what the studies say the thermometers that tell a different story. If we just look at the US for example

    clip_image0023.jpg

    Lets put todays temperatures into some kind of proper historical context. Here are the post glacial temperature records from ice cores from both poles

    Ice Cores

    Today is well within natural temperature norms in both its level and rate of change. There really is nothing to worry about whatsoever

    smh. wow.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

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    yeah, I'm going for speed, not people carrying.
    so you buy a pick up..

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