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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    I think I'm missing how the nitrogen is going to be excited given the lack of free electrons in the atmosphere?? Also vibrational contact transfer of energy is far more feasible in an enclosed container rather than out in the open.
    Nitrogen is a big UV absorber, I am thinking the sunlight will optically pump the nitrogen.
    As to vibrational contact transfer that is just a mean free path problem,
    With a gas that is 780,000 ppm of the of the atmosphere, the CO2 does not need to go far
    to meet an excited nitrogen.
    Bear in mind the atmospheric nitrogen is 4 to 6 times higher than in a CO2 laser enclosed container.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Go on then, I'll bite.

    How does a stopped clock not show the correct time twice a day? Assuming its a mechanical one with hour and minute hands.
    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    where in the venn space of possible clocks do stopped clocks and broken clocks reside?
    So I was right; having made a silly claim you are in full retreat into psudo-interlectual babble.

    The clarity of you knowing nothing about anything is very obvious here.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    I think the Duke study argues fairly convincingly that we should throw the upper bounds out now.
    Fabulous!

    Given that, do you consider it any threat?

    If so please explain why. I ask not as any sort of troll but because you are the cleverest of the AGW proponents and I honestly see absolutely no scary bits at all from the bottom half of the predictions.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    So I was right; having made a silly claim you are in full retreat into psudo-interlectual babble.

    The clarity of you knowing nothing about anything is very obvious here.
    just to clarify, since you posted the above quote;
    you think ALL broken clocks are stopped?
    none simply run fast/slow (wind speed?), etc?

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Forget the reasons why, increasing global temperature will have a profoundly negative effect on the economy. So too will scarcity of fossil fuels. Restrictions and efficiency mandates will also have a negative effect on the economy. However, they will also offset some of the negative effects of climate change AND resource scarcity. So the real question is what should we do now to put us in the best shape economically for the future?
    1, Why will a very slight increase in temperature have significant negative economic effects?

    2, What scarcity of fossil fuels? Have you not noticed the peak oil thing went away?

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    just to clarify, since you posted the above quote;
    you think ALL broken clocks are stopped?
    none simply run fast/slow (wind speed?), etc?

    OK, how does a stopped clock ever not tell the correct time twice a day?

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Natural variation just like so many of the warming/cooling phases. Many have alluded to the Maunder minumum but in reality we can only guess
    Hate to tell you this, guy, but except for the seasons themselves being determined by the earth's position in relation to the sun, ALL major planet-wide climactic changes have CAUSES - they don't "just happen due to natural variation".

    It will be pretty obvious to any impartial observer based on our respective input that I know considerably more about this subject than you do
    Your first quote above obviates your claim.
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Hate to tell you this, guy, but except for the seasons themselves being determined by the earth's position in relation to the sun, ALL major planet-wide climactic changes have CAUSES - they don't "just happen due to natural variation".
    No natural variation! so the weather guy(or girl) can tell you exactly what the climate conditions will be 5 years from today?
    Nope the weather and climate cycles about quite a bit.
    Just look at the GISS temps.
    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt
    all over the place.
    If you actually calculated a signal to noise ratio for say the last 30 years, about 1/3 of the signal would be noise.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Hate to tell you this, guy, but except for the seasons themselves being determined by the earth's position in relation to the sun, ALL major planet-wide climactic changes have CAUSES - they don't "just happen due to natural variation".
    I'm sure they do. Its just that we do not know what they are. If we do not know the causes of these dozens of natural changes over recent millenia then how can we determine that todays isn't just another one of them ?

    Your first quote above obviates your claim.
    Well then genius there have been around two dozen natural warming phases at least as warm or warmer than today since the last glaciation. Please enlighten us (and the whole scientific community) with your explanation for such events ?

    This is just the last 4000 years

    Kobashi 2011

    4000yearsgreenland_nov2011_gprl.jpg

    http://www.leif.org/EOS/2011GL049444.pdf
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