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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Right, many variables can affect the size of the rings. attaching only warmer and cooler conditions to the size
    could have more errors that,...AGW!
    exactly...

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Actually you can look at tree rings are tell a lot about the growing season. You can't tell how warm it was in August but they give you a pretty good look at the year..
    true.. but its far far from exact and like you said a range... also soil nutrients etc are huge variables

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Once again, you claimed to agree w/an article, but couldn't even explain what was in it.

    Don't hurt your brain--stick to words like "gun" and "barn."
    so again..how did the dinosaurs create the ice age?... that should be a simple question for you.. or do you need to call Al?

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    So I am guessing you are ready to discuss the quantum mechanisms that would
    cause the diurnal asymmetry in the response of CO2.
    http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1995/...sen_etal_2.pdf
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    thats game set match...

    well played my friend...
    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Please explain to us what the article was about in your own words, and why it was well-played. Entertain us
    I only read the abstract, but the paper has nothing to do with quantum mechanics, infers that agw exists but is being counterbalanced by forced cooling, and that warming is set to increase in the future.
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    I only read the abstract, but the paper has nothing to do with quantum mechanics, infers that agw exists but is being counterbalanced by forced cooling, and that warming is set to increase in the future.
    I will boil it down.. it shows real science with a real control and that many variables are in play and that we dont know the reason why tempature changes, nor can we prove any one thing is the factor..

    so I guess the liberal scientists LOL... are clueless


    But the liberal Al Gore fleecing of the USA is in full play.. as tjhe liberals use this to keep gas and taxes as high as possible.. to outlaw coal and for us to be not the powere house manufacturer this country once was


    hahahahhahah can you imagine if the name Al Gore was Dick Cheney ..the liberals heads would explode

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    I only read the abstract, but the paper has nothing to do with quantum mechanics, infers that agw exists but is being counterbalanced by forced cooling, and that warming is set to increase in the future.
    Well they are suggesting that aerosols could be causing the asymmetry, but aerosols are not evenly
    distributed around the globe, but the asymmetry appears all over.
    Logically it must be something more fundamentally tied to the CO2 excitation states,
    hence the quantum mechanism.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I live here, and Rio Vista is not in the "metroplex" area. There are miles and miles of open countryside between Fort Worth and that area. It's 60 miles from Dallas alone.
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...C_Feb_2013.gif
    Johnson County, Texas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Johnson County is included in the Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX Metropolitan Statistical Area.

    sad that you don't know anything about where you live.... ?

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Why do people still debate this? I guess time will take care of the ones that do...
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Good gosh, I've been to Rio Vista. It's an hour-plus drive south of Fort Worth out in the middle of nowhere.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Where's the evidence for this taxpayer funded manipulation? CITE.



    Homogenization is a peer-reviewed process by which scientists remove data from measurements that are attributed to errors associated w/the manner in which the measurements are made. . .

    Homogenisation of monthly and annual data from surface stations


    Here's the 2012 article from the NOAA where they claimed July 2012 as the hottest month on record, surpassing July 1936...

    The Summer of 2012 -- Too Hot to Handle? - NASA Science

    And their initial graph showing July 2012 surpassing July 1936...

    noaa_usavg_temps_july_focuson_1936_from_20121.jpg

    And here's their revised chart posted on their website in June of 2014...

    noaa_usavg_temps_july_focuson_1936_from_20141.jpg

    Now I'm sure you'll claim that it was just a marginal adjustment and there's nothing to see here. Problem is they only changed it after a outside Scientist not affiliated with the NOAA exposed their faulty data.

    And these manipulations and fraud isn't restricted to the US Government

    Australian Bureau of Meteorology accused of Criminally Adjusted Global Warming - Breitbart

    " At Amberley, Queensland, for example, the data at a weather station showing 1 degree Celsius cooling per century was “homogenized” (adjusted) by the Bureau so that it instead showed a 2.5 degrees warming per century.

    At Rutherglen, Victoria, a cooling trend of -0.35 degrees C per century was magically transformed at the stroke of an Australian meteorologist’s pen into a warming trend of 1.73 degrees C per century. "

    Of-course it took a REAL Scientist, Australian scientist Jennifer Marohasy to expose this monumental fraud poorly disguised as " Science ".

    Oh and we can't leave out the fraud that is the Hockey Stick graph, can we ?? Michael Mann's gift to all the ideologue pinheads who think that Man Made Global Warming is a credible threat to mankind.

    Here's fellow IPPCC Author Dr John Christy confirming that the Hockey Stick graph is little more that propaganda during his 2011 testimony in front of the US House of Representatives Science, Space and Technology Committee.

    " Regarding the Hockey Stick of IPCC 2001 evidence now indicates, in my view, that an IPCC Lead Author working with a small cohort of scientists, misrepresented the temperature record of the past 1000 years by (a) promoting his own result as the best estimate, (b) neglecting studies that contradicted his, and (c) amputating another's result so as to eliminate conflicting data and limit any serious attempt to expose the real uncertainties of these data. "
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