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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    exactly.. a "range"... we all know thats about all tree rings can provide.. but we are observing "fractions of a percent"... thats why I scoffed at that..not much we can truly know by tree rings unless we are using the same age trees from all over, the same species.. yada..
    Related to tree rings, on a local bypass they planted a group of trees all within about 1 week.
    If you look at those trees about 5 years on, the tall one in the middle seems to have done better.
    https://www.google.com/maps/@29.5334...TRkg!2e0?hl=en
    I wonder if it was a lot warmer at that spot than all around?

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Please explain to us what the article was about in your own words, and why it was well-played. Entertain us
    again.. what dinosaur created the Ice age?...

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Related to tree rings, on a local bypass they planted a group of trees all within about 1 week.
    If you look at those trees about 5 years on, the tall one in the middle seems to have done better.
    https://www.google.com/maps/@29.5334...TRkg!2e0?hl=en
    I wonder if it was a lot warmer at that spot than all around?
    BINGO.. or better nutrients or able to get better tap root etc..who knows?

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Something that can be adjusted, manipulated and or ignored outright apparently.
    No, that's not what it means--explain temperature to us in your own words.

    Can't take you seriously if you use and don't know their meaning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Now " Science " can include presentations based on subjective and arbitrary calculations ( homogenzation ) instead of accurate and empirical data.
    Explain to us statistical homogenization in your own words.

    Why should we take your "criticism" seriously if you don't even know what you're criticizing
    Last edited by solletica; 04-27-15 at 03:26 PM.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    again.. what dinosaur created the Ice age?...
    Once again, you claimed to agree w/an article, but couldn't even explain what was in it.

    Don't hurt your brain--stick to words like "gun" and "barn."

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Translates to "rush told me that global warming is solely based in politics and predetermined agenda."
    You should have listened the first time you heard it.
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Please explain to us what the article was about in your own words, and why it was well-played. Entertain us
    According to the concept of AGW as presented by the IPCC in Baede, et al 2001, still cited as the key concepts
    in climate science, the supposed feedback from CO2 would be from the 14 um IR from the sun heated ground.
    One would expect a lot more of this to be going on in the daytime, but in fact the opposite is true.
    Most of the observed warming has been in nighttime lows not going as low, not in daytime highs.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    exactly.. a "range"... we a know thats all tree rings can provide.. but we are observing "fractions of a percent"... thats why I scoffed at that..not much we can truly know by tree rings unless we are using the same age trees from all over, the same species.. yada..

    Actually you can look at tree rings are tell a lot about the growing season. You can't tell how warm it was in August but they give you a pretty good look at the year..
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    BINGO.. or better nutrients or able to get better tap root etc..who knows?
    Right, many variables can affect the size of the rings. attaching only warmer and cooler conditions to the size
    could have more errors that,...AGW!

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Once again, you claimed to agree w/an article, but couldn't even explain what was in it.

    Don't hurt your brain--stick to words like "gun" and "barn."

    youre being destroyed here if you havent noticed..

    the article was great.. it showed real science witha real control for starters and how many variables are in play..

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