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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    how do we really know temperatures from before a thermometer was created?...
    By sampling captured atmospheric gasses in air bubbles within ice cores. The global warmers hate when you reference this stuff because it blows the whole man made aspect of it right out of the water. Mother nature controls the climate our puny contribution certainly doesn't

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Where's the evidence for this taxpayer funded manipulation? CITE.



    Homogenization is a peer-reviewed process by which scientists remove data from measurements that are attributed to errors associated w/the manner in which the measurements are made. . .

    Homogenisation of monthly and annual data from surface stations

    It has nothing to do w/a deliberate manipulation of data to distort findings.

    Don't you think it's time to learn the concepts/facts relevant to the issue before discussing it, instead of trolling stale right wing rants and making a total ass of yourself ?
    The NOAAs July 2012 Hottest month backtrack after getting busted manipulating temperature data is the proof a Tax payer funded Government agency is manipulating data.

    Funny how Homogenation always points towards warming ?

    And since when did the Scientific method ever need to be peer reviewed ?

    Oh thats right, when ideologues started in with their chiken little propaganda and needed " Scientific evidence " to back their lies, the Scientific method was redefined and or outright ignored.
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Global warming has nothing to do w/accurately predicting average global temperature. It's merely about the extent to which man-made substances contribute to changes in that temperature.

    Average global temperatures are affected by a number of natural phenomena that exist outside of current models.
    Since the call for action is based on the accuracy of said predictions, it has quite a bit to do with it.
    Very few are contesting that CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and as such has a direct response sensitivity.
    We can even go with the IPCC number of 1.2 C for a doubling of CO2, but that will not cause the
    predicted 3 to 4.5 C of warming the IPCC is raising the alarm over.
    It is clear that the models did not account for all of the feedbacks, both positive and negative.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    how do we really know temperatures from before a thermometer was created?...
    It's called science. . .

    The width of tree rings varies with, among other things, temperature. They can be used to estimate temperature for times before thermometers were in widespread use. When cross sections are taken of trees there is a pattern of annular rings. The width of these rings is, in part, a function of temperature.

    Tree Rings
    Konservatives should stick to words like "gun" and "barn" and leave science to the adults.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    So the presence of natural changes in global temperature over the Earth's history is sufficient to substantiate that global warming is a hoax? Is that the point? !
    The point you so desperately want to miss is that there is nothing whatsoever abnormal about the current modest warming which falls well within natural variability. There is no need whatsoever to invoke some human component in order to explain it nor is there any need to address it.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The NOAAs July 2012 Hottest month backtrack after getting busted manipulating temperature
    Please cite evidence that any of this "manipulation" was done outside of the accepted statistical homogenization method.

    You're welcome to consult your source, rush, but I recommend doing some actual research before spouting off again.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    It's a good job then that AGW has nothing to do with liberalism and everything to do with science.

    As far as I'm concerned, scientists have a far better track record of not pulling stuff out of their asses than either liberal or conservative politicians.
    True, except global warming is solely based in politics and predetermined agenda. It's unraveling before our eyes, fortunately, and the public is no longer interested or amused in its cult-like creation.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Rio Vista is part of the DFW MSA.

    Forum posters should be able to read wiki before self-owning.
    I live here, and Rio Vista is not in the "metroplex" area. There are miles and miles of open countryside between Fort Worth and that area. It's 60 miles from Dallas alone.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    It's called science. . .



    Konservatives should stick to words like "gun" and "barn" and leave science to the adults.

    hahahhahaaa.... give me a break.. yea.. tree rings.. LOL... water ,wind , shade, soil density , nutrients and sun wouldnt affect that..ONLY temperature.. right?

    what we see is that liberals are super gullible.. and nothing but emotion over facts... fact is we dont know...

    here is where you flash a picture of a polar bear on an ice cap
    Last edited by Travis007; 04-27-15 at 03:05 PM.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    hahahhahaaa.... give me a break.. yea.. tree rings.. LOL...
    As we said, science is too hard for you and your fellow righties.

    Stick to "gun" and "barn."
    Last edited by solletica; 04-27-15 at 03:03 PM.

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