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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol !!

    Do I really have to explain the relevence of a Tax payer funded Governmental agency manipulating temperature data and spouting off Pro AGW propaganda to the issue of Climate change ?
    Where's the evidence for this taxpayer funded manipulation? CITE.

    Without " homogenation ", without Computer models built on manipulated data there is NO AGW.
    Homogenization is a peer-reviewed process by which scientists remove data from measurements that are attributed to errors associated w/the manner in which the measurements are made. . .

    Homogenisation of monthly and annual data from surface stations

    It has nothing to do w/a deliberate manipulation of data to distort findings.

    Don't you think it's time to learn the concepts/facts relevant to the issue before discussing it, instead of trolling stale right wing rants and making a total ass of yourself ?

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    All that article says is that the models used to predict the average temperate of the Earth's atmosphere are incomplete.

    What does that have to do w/the global warming issue? Explain.
    Back in post #138 you asked,
    Before you start frothing and foaming, explain to us, in your own words, what the global warming issue is all about.
    I explained in my words what the issues were and supported it with numbers from the Nature article.
    The IPCC and Pro AGW scientist predicted warming at a .21 C per decade rate, and only 0.04 C per decade
    showed up. This while CO2 levels continues to increase unabated.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Back in post #138 you asked,

    I explained in my words what the issues were and supported it with numbers from the Nature article.
    The IPCC and Pro AGW scientist predicted warming at a .21 C per decade rate, and only 0.04 C per decade
    showed up. This while CO2 levels continues to increase unabated.

    well said.. and thats the "facts" as we have them , within the only context we can view them in.. and it shows "virtually no rise"

    But Al Gore made MILLIONS.. and who knows how much went to "the Clinton Foundation"
    Last edited by Travis007; 04-27-15 at 02:25 PM.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Back in post #138 you asked,

    I explained in my words what the issues were and supported it with numbers from the Nature article.
    The IPCC and Pro AGW scientist predicted warming at a .21 C per decade rate, and only 0.04 C per decade
    showed up. This while CO2 levels continues to increase unabated.
    Global warming has nothing to do w/accurately predicting average global temperature. It's merely about the extent to which man-made substances contribute to changes in that temperature.

    Average global temperatures are affected by a number of natural phenomena that exist outside of current models.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    well said.. and thats the "facts" as we have them , within the only context we can view them in.. and its shows "virtually no rise"
    We are getting close to where the period which caused the initial concern will be exceeded by the
    the period of the pause.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    well said.. and thats the "facts" as we have them , within the only context we can view them in.. and its shows "virtually no rise"
    Its not that there has been any increase. Its the alleged human culpability for it thats at issue. Temperatures have risen and fallen quite naturally and at far greater rates of change than today over the last 10,000 years and yet we are still here

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What! The anti-science, anti-climate change folk lying about reported scientific findings!!!!! Say it's not so.
    I know, it really is so rare...
    We became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers - Lindsey Graham

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    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    We are getting close to where the period which caused the initial concern will be exceeded by the
    the period of the pause.
    exactly.. and its snapshot of 100 - 200 years?...what percent is 100- 200 years in the history of Planet Earth?

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Its not that there has been any increase. Its the alleged human culpability for it thats at issue. Temperatures have risen and fallen quite naturally and at far greater rates of change than today over the last 10,000 years and yet we are still here

    GISP_to_11Kybp.gif
    how do we really know temperatures from before a thermometer was created?...

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Its not that there has been any increase. Its the alleged human culpability for it thats at issue. Temperatures have risen and fallen quite naturally and at far greater rates of change than today over the last 10,000 years and yet we are still here

    GISP_to_11Kybp.gif
    So the presence of natural changes in global temperature over the Earth's history is sufficient to substantiate that global warming is a hoax? Is that the point? !

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