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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    I LOL when the only argument you've put forward in this thread is 'NASA hates liberals'. As if it were somehow even relevant (or true)
    is true. it stems with Obama relying on Russia ...and the non funding ...

    they hate Obama

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    The problem is that the facts aren't being accurately reported and 100% of the predictions and forecasting have been wrong. What is clear is that the planet is always heating or cooling. The only people who are wrong about climate are the ones that believe it will be or should be unchanging. With respect to mankind impact, it's doubtful that ten or twenty parts per million of C02 added to the atmosphere has as much impact as water vapor in the first twenty feet, cloud cover, the sun's radiation, the orbit of the earth around the sun and one of dozens of variables impacting climate.


    Nasa by the way was just busted fudging it's numbers to fit the narrative. So did NOAA. Politifact is a liberal website run by the St. Pete Times, a left leaning paper.
    Great post.. spot on..

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I will give it a try!
    Starting in the late 80's Scientist like Dr James Hanson starting predicting that the accepted
    physics response to adding CO2 would be amplified through a collection of open loop feedbacks
    to create catastrophic warming. While the direct response to doubling the CO2 level is generally
    accepted, the amplified feedback is not, and have not been verified through the observed data.
    The predictions went along ok, until 1998 when the observed data and the models sharply deviated.
    Nature has a good article on the measurements.
    Climate change: The case of the missing heat : Nature News & Comment

    The models predicted a continuation of the 0.21 C per decade, while the actual data only showed
    .04  C per decade.
    There has been much speculation of where the "missing" heat went, it is possible that the
    predicted amplification simply does not exist at the predicted levels.
    All that article says is that the models used to predict the average temperate of the Earth's atmosphere are incomplete.

    What does that have to do w/the global warming issue? Explain.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    all of it.. its complete nonsense....its wealth redistribution
    Cite, where is the evidence? Explain.

    Good 'ol travis--continually proving the case for right-wingers' lack of facts.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    I LOL when you use "fact"
    You don't know anything about facts, because whenever we ask you to cite them to back up your rants, you never have any.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Cite, where is the evidence? Explain.

    Good 'ol travis--continually proving the case for right-wingers' lack of facts.
    that you are so ignorant on this subject is on full display.. again Global Warming is a FARCE.. its wealth redistribution..

    that your so gullible is comical.. what next?... that Michelle's School lunch program cured cancer?

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Yes, it's obvious the debate rages on and the models and predictions require constant modifications.

    With that as fact, it also remains true the only solution being pushed involves the largest transfer of wealth in the history of mankind, every human being on the planet change their lives, and a tacit agreement by all mankind to be subservient to a panel of unknown experts who will decide how they get to live life moving forward.

    It's preposterous to believe such a scenario would not be met without extreme skepticism and resistance. Calling these billions who are skeptical names does nothing to forward the AGW agenda.
    Exactly, it is a major step in the right direction that many in the cult of AGW have even started admitting that the science is not, in fact, settled.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    Temperature data is not the only indicator of climate change. Irregardless, most of the claims about temperature manipulation are baseless.

    As for renewable energy, that comes down to the solutions to climate change, which as I have said before, is not clear cut. I'm glad you brought it up though, because this is the discussion we should be having: 'What is the best way to deal with AGW?' instead of 'Is AGW real?'. Personally, I'm a large proponent of using nuclear energy as a replacement for renewables. Far more reliable with fewer intermittency issues.
    Wrong,

    In 2012 the NOAA made the claim that July 2012 was the hottest month on record surpassing July 1936 as the previous hottest month on record.

    They made these claims via a arbitrary and unscientific process called " homogenatation " that for some reason always shows warming regardless of the actual temperature data.

    When challenged ( exposed ) by a outside Scientist that showed they had in fact manipulated temperature data they had to rescind their claim.

    In 2014 the NOAA posted a revised graph thar showed July 1936 to again, be the hottest month on record.

    Recently the Australian Meteorology Bureau also got busted manipulating temperature data.

    There's nothing Scientific about adjusting data to arrive at a predetermined conclusion. Thats just fraud.
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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    You don't know anything about facts, because whenever we ask you to cite them to back up your rants, you never have any.
    again.. all "facts" have been wrong.. and now have been debunked..like your posts!!!

    so you tell me which dinosaur you blame for the ice age? was the T Rex the most C02 emitting?

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Exactly, it is a major step in the right direction that many in the cult of AGW have even started admitting that the science is not, in fact, settled.
    No.. Solletica and Nilly have "facts"....LOL...Obama sent them their facts and those and the facts..LOL

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