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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    1) Is man burning fossil fuels that in turn release CO2 that is not currently part of the natural atmospheric (and oceanic, too, for that matter) CO2 cycle?
    The Earth has had periods where the CO2 levels have been at least 8 times todays levels. Those periods coincided with the greatest flourishing of all life on the planet. The optimum level for plant growth is currently three times that of today at around 1200 PPM

    2) Does said CO2 have IR active vibrational modes?
    Academic as we do not currently know the climate sensitivity of CO2 ergo any values put into climate models are pure guesswork. Given how wildly out of kilter those models are with observed reality those guesses have obviously been far too high

    3) If your answer to 1 and 2 is yes, then it isn't "bunkum"
    Of course it is

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    H2O easily leaves the atmosphere.
    In fact its net residence time is typically 1% or less of CO2.

    But you knew that. You know what to do next, right?. Integrals.
    But in order to justify its existence the IPCC has been grossly exaggerating the atmospheric CO2 residence time if we compare its guesstimates with the published literature on the subject. Its when I discovered stuff like this was going on and started checking some of the other claims being made for AGW that I became a skeptic.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Reid Bryson, one of the founders of modern climatology, first coined the term global warming in the 70's. WECN May 2007 We are living in an interglacial period where temperatures are moderate. The climate swings from warmer to much colder over the millennia. Climate is complex and we have only recently gotten the tools to accurately measure it. We are still trying to figure out what to do with the data.

    You are right that AGW is a theory. It's not settled science and while tracking consensus is interesting in a very limited way, it has nothing to do with validation of the theory. We don't get to vote on theories, They require proof.
    they can't even accurately measure it. only 3 of their 200 models actually correctly track observed temperatures. all the other models are so far off by their bias toward co2 that it makes it laughable that they can present this as any real science.

    I am just noting a fact that AGW is not climate change. it is a totally separate theory and it shows the dishonesty of these zealots that they try and hijack another term to push their agenda.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    But in order to justify its existence the IPCC has been grossly exaggerating the atmospheric CO2 residence time if we compare its guesstimates with the published literature on the subject. Its when I discovered stuff like this was going on and started checking some of the other claims being made for AGW that I became a skeptic.

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    you have to understand the purpose of the IPCC and it states in their mission to study man's impact on climate. they ignore everything else and soley focus on man's impact.
    if they were to find that man actually has somewhat of a minimal impact on climate then well they are no longer needed and those billions of dollars go elsewhere.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Here's more brilliance from the global warming preachers.

    http://www.weather.com/news/news/tex...o-severe-storm

    Uh, no, folks at weather.com, this is not the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex. This is in rural Texas.

    Climate/weather experts should be able to read a map.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Of course the climate changes, and would do so even if humans had never evolved, I suspect. But that's not the issue. The issue is whether or not the climate is changing for the worse due in any part to human activity. And there are plenty of scientific studies suggesting it does.
    If there isn't a perfect climate, than there is no "worse".
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    If there isn't a perfect climate, than there is no "worse".
    Thats a point nobody seems to address. Just what is this climate 'ideal' we should be aiming for and why are todays currently stagnant temperature levels deemed somehow to be all wrong ?

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wait, you mean all the frothing, and foaming over "global warming" was based on manipulated, or incomplete data, and flawed models? I......AM.......SHOCKED!!!!!!
    This video explains everything....

    “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary (or faith) depends upon his not understanding it.”

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wait, you mean all the frothing, and foaming over "global warming" was based on manipulated, or incomplete data, and flawed models? I......AM.......SHOCKED!!!!!!
    Before you start frothing and foaming, explain to us, in your own words, what the global warming issue is all about.

    Reason is that konservatives have a long-standing tendency (both in this forum and in life) of talking out of their asses, i. e. trying to comment on topics/comprehend they don't even comprehend.

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    Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

    Personally, Im all for anything man can do to increase Oxygen levels.

    You know, so we can have spiders and scorpions the size of SUVs as pets.....and bitter enemies.

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