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    Freddie Gray Was Injured in Police Van, Baltimore Officers’ Lawyer Says

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/23/us...ys.html?ref=us
    A Baltimore man who died after sustaining a spinal injury in police custody was hurt while riding inside a police van, the lawyer representing the officers in the case said Wednesday.

    What happened to the man, Freddie Gray, 25, when he was arrested by Baltimore police officers has been a mystery since his death on Sunday, a week after his arrest. In a news conference on Wednesday, the officers’ lawyer, Michael Davey, questioned whether Mr. Gray had been screaming in pain while being dragged to the van and said that the officers had done nothing wrong.
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    It's amazing to me that some white people are still saying that police brutality against black people is "isolated" when a new case of it appears every week. Can you imagine the national outrage if every week a black police officer was found to have used excessive force against a white person.

    And we're supposed to give officers the "benefit of the doubt" when people go out of their way to slander their victims.

    Please. We have an epidemic of police brutality against the black population in the United States because the devaluation of black lives is endemic in the United States. Freddie Gray is one of the latest victims.

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    Re: Freddie Gray Was Injured in Police Van, Baltimore Officers’ Lawyer Says

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    It's amazing to me that some white people are still saying that police brutality against black people is "isolated" when a new case of it appears every week. Can you imagine the national outrage if every week a black police officer was found to have used excessive force against a white person.

    And we're supposed to give officers the "benefit of the doubt" when people go out of their way to slander their victims.

    Please. We have an epidemic of police brutality against the black population in the United States because the devaluation of black lives is endemic in the United States. Freddie Gray is one of the latest victims.
    The young, male black population of this country has done most of this damage to itself. Yes, black lives have been devalued and the reason for that devaluation is epidemic black on black violence, epidemic drug use, epidemic property crime and epidemic sexual irresponsibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    It's amazing to me that some white people are still saying that police brutality against black people is "isolated" when a new case of it appears every week. Can you imagine the national outrage if every week a black police officer was found to have used excessive force against a white person.

    These instances are just bearing themselves out statistically based on numerical probability. Black people are getting arrested at an alarming rate, and police are still arresting only a small percentage of the perpetrators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    The young, male black population of this country has done most of this damage to itself. Yes, black lives have been devalued and the reason for that devaluation is epidemic black on black violence, epidemic drug use, epidemic property crime and epidemic sexual irresponsibility.
    It is true that black civilians cause more injuries to black civilians than the police do. However, they are not being paid to do it with my tax dollars.
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    Re: Freddie Gray Was Injured in Police Van, Baltimore Officers’ Lawyer Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    The young, male black population of this country has done most of this damage to itself. Yes, black lives have been devalued and the reason for that devaluation is epidemic black on black violence, epidemic drug use, epidemic property crime and epidemic sexual irresponsibility.
    Please. Black lives are devalued because racism and white supremacy have been endemic in this country since its white slave-owning "founding fathers" created it. That racist, victim blaming narrative about "black-on-black violence", et al. may play well with naive idiots and like-minded folks, but I know better so try to think a little more critically before responding to me again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    These instances are just bearing themselves out statistically based on numerical probability. Black people are getting arrested at an alarming rate, and police are still arresting only a small percentage of the perpetrators.
    Yeah, black people are getting arrested at alarming rate, even for crimes that white people commit more. Isn't that fascinating?

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    Re: Freddie Gray Was Injured in Police Van, Baltimore Officers’ Lawyer Says

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    It's amazing to me that some white people are still saying that police brutality against black people is "isolated" when a new case of it appears every week. Can you imagine the national outrage if every week a black police officer was found to have used excessive force against a white person.

    And we're supposed to give officers the "benefit of the doubt" when people go out of their way to slander their victims.

    Please. We have an epidemic of police brutality against the black population in the United States because the devaluation of black lives is endemic in the United States. Freddie Gray is one of the latest victims.
    Police kill about three hundred and fifty white people annually. They kill about a hundred and fifty black people, last time I heard statistics. Granted, the proportions of population are skewed toward blacks but when confronted by police, whites are generally more passive.

    I'm not excusing police brutality. I'm also not saying how many killings are justified. I am saying that this is nothing new.
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    Re: Freddie Gray Was Injured in Police Van, Baltimore Officers’ Lawyer Says

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    when confronted by police, whites are generally more passive.
    source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    I'm not excusing police brutality. I'm also not saying how many killings are justified. I am saying that this is nothing new.
    By blaming police violence against black people on aggressiveness by black people, you're excusing and justifying the violence. You may not want to believe that you are, but if you weren't, there would have been no need to include that comment. Such a comment about white "passiveness" has literally nothing to do with how frequent this is.

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